Way too fast in a heat, unfortunately. also, how dumb are these heats? Only like 6 people were eliminated. I guess that’s normal, but … seems dumb to me. Heats should eliminate ⅓ of the field.
Number of athletes eliminated does feel weird. Lowers the urgency but also increases the importance of navigating the rounds and not over exerting. Norman put on a master class in that. We will see how Quincy Wilson does. I said in another thread that he would break the indoor 400m record which he ended up doing. I thought he would be a 44.8/9 outdoors and he’s surpassed that.
Way too fast in a heat, unfortunately. also, how dumb are these heats? Only like 6 people were eliminated. I guess that’s normal, but … seems dumb to me. Heats should eliminate ⅓ of the field.
Number of athletes eliminated does feel weird. Lowers the urgency but also increases the importance of navigating the rounds and not over exerting. Norman put on a master class in that. We will see how Quincy Wilson does. I said in another thread that he would break the indoor 400m record which he ended up doing. I thought he would be a 44.8/9 outdoors and he’s surpassed that.
I don't think he makes the final but there is no shame in that. He said it best - "there is nothing to loose". He gets to walk out of here with a world youth record.
Certain HS performances, along with certain NCAA performances, aren't even believable anymore
Imagine seeing progressions like this from a teenage Moroccan or Kenyan. All 1600 / 3200 performances have been converted to mile / 2 mile with a * for altitude conversion
Is there ANYONE who’s at the top, whether it’s world, college, or HS, who’s not incredibly suspicious? If you’re already training hard, you don’t double your 5k to get a new 10k PR in a year. or drop 33 seconds in a 2 mile lol
A fatuous assertion responding to an equally fatuous assertion. That rate of improvement would not be at all suspicious for a kid that age who has good talent and responds well to training. Nor, indeed, should it be considered suspicious for an adult who has only been training hard for a couple of years. That's just what happens when you mix talent and good training, and is especially common for teenage kids. You were beating them last year, and they're crushing you now.
I remember a farm boy from Kansas who had some pretty dramatic improvements back in the day. When he ran the hay seeds flew out from behind his ears.
Exactly the case I was thinking of. As a high school sophomore, he was a very good miler. As a high school junior, he was trading all-time high-school mile records with a tiny, more distance-oriented guy named Gerry Lindgren. As a high-school senior, he was outkicking Peter Snell, who had won both the 800m and the 1500m at the previous year's Olympic Games. His high-school mile record lasted forever, until Alan Webb broke it in a stacked world-class field. Lindgren's high-school 5000m record would last even longer, until it was broken by Galen Rupp. Let's enjoy, not denigrate, these very rare cases of truly world-class talent being discovered.
He looked VERY EASY running 44.66, I think Steve Lewis's 43.87 World Junior Record is Possible Possibly in the Semi's more Likely in the Final in a few Days
Kid doesn’t even have a license yet. He can’t legally drive a car 44 sec over 400m. Does he even shave? He makes the grownups look like they are chasing a toddler around the track.
And he beat Chris Bailey AND Justin Robinson......
If he beats one of the two of Bailey and Robinson in the final, he's an Olympian. Easily.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves - its only the first round. The real test comes next. Bailey and Robinson are prepared to run multiple rounds and still go 44 low.
Remember that he ran two 44.xx relay leys at PENN...
I don't know how I didn't realize this but it must suck for Justin Robinson to not only have been beaten by a 16 year old but to have had his very own world youth record broken in the same race
Is there ANYONE who’s at the top, whether it’s world, college, or HS, who’s not incredibly suspicious? If you’re already training hard, you don’t double your 5k to get a new 10k PR in a year. or drop 33 seconds in a 2 mile lol
A fatuous assertion responding to an equally fatuous assertion. That rate of improvement would not be at all suspicious for a kid that age who has good talent and responds well to training. Nor, indeed, should it be considered suspicious for an adult who has only been training hard for a couple of years. That's just what happens when you mix talent and good training, and is especially common for teenage kids. You were beating them last year, and they're crushing you now.
It’s a plateau followed by a MASSIVE drop. It’s not like going from 4:29 to 4:17 - much greater
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