He looks to be dirtiest runner I have seen in awhile - Katir and him have been hanging out or something
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SebastianCoeTookEPO wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Strange comparisons. There's a difference between guys doing worse from season to season and a guy who is crushing everybody 9 weeks before the Olympic final.
Makhloufi was in his 30's in 2019, then the lockdowns and being exposed by Jimmy Gressier.
The only thing that can stop Sejaditi is if he gets busted, or perhaps he panics like Katir apparently did at Tokyo and lays off the sauce for the Games.
I agree with you that the all the british middle distance runners of the late 70s/80s doped, but I see no reason to assume Sejaditi has the same terrible sports ethics.
Algerian and Moroccan runners are always suspicious. Heck, even most of the European (running) doping busts are related to runners with former allegiance to Morocco and Algeria (Mourhit at al.) - even Spanish busts were also related to easy access to drugs in Morocco.
When I think of Algeria, I always picture Ali Saidi Sief - anybody remember him and his dominance in 2000/2001? (Makhloufi and Morcelli too, but they were never caught despite very strong suspicions and ties to dirty groups/coaches)
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On basis that WA must know that he converted from amateur football to 800s with no known running background and did 1.45 in Year 1 I'd guess that he's being tested regularly. Could be that North Africa doping is so entrenched that almost as soon as he joined the sport (with, no doubt, loads of talent) he went on The Programme.
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His coach is Amar Benida. He is the husband and former coach of Nouria Mérah-Benida, who you may remember literally came out of.nowhere at the age of 31 to win the 1500m Olympic gold at Sydney, and then promptly retired.
Dirtier than a Calcutta sewer.
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YankeeDreams@proton.me wrote:
I hope he get to 1:41 soon and beat the Brit record.
A lot of discussion and ruminating? a tradition in this North American site of loosers.
There is 1% he is caught because there was no case in 25 years and he is already Silver WC.
play ...
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Man Moth wrote:
You do understand that 1:43.2 is 4 x 25.8 seconds in a row?
So why is a 26.0 last 200m impressive?
Seems like he just ran the race properly, rather than dying in the a*se (like most 800m runners do in every race).
No, it seems like you know nothing about the 800m. Your use of the word "properly" to describe an even-split 800 shows basic ignorance of the event.
Listen and learn: Nearly ALL elite and sub-elite PRs are run with a positive split of 1.0-2.x seconds. This has been shown across literally thousands of runners.
The fact that Sedjati ran nearly dead-even 200 splits shows it was simply NOT ideally paced in terms of time. (Though it was a smart tactical race to get the win.)
Of course he can run faster if he properly distributes his effort with the goal of the fastest time possible. In the 800, this means a small positive split.
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Peepholes wrote:
On basis that WA must know that he converted from amateur football to 800s with no known running background and did 1.45 in Year 1 I'd guess that he's being tested regularly. Could be that North Africa doping is so entrenched that almost as soon as he joined the sport (with, no doubt, loads of talent) he went on The Programme.
A 1:45 debut does indicate fantastic talent, but he did appear out of literally nowhere.
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I ran 1:50.x clean while being relatively lazy, without phenomenal leg speed at all (50.x) so I think a truly dedicated, bigger talent could run 1:44 clean, with the pinnacle being 1:43 mid or low, assuming 2010s spikes, maybe 1:42 high with new spikes
But running that with a 25.8 final 200? Ramzi type finish26 -
Coevett wrote:
Dirtier than a Calcutta sewer.
Dig ... dig .. dig at your heart content.
You will not show you the light.
By the way Sedjati was encircled by two Britanic who spent an entier night planing to deal withy him:
1- One was advised to adopt the front runing
2. The other was advised to follow closely Sedjati until the last meters.
None of the two plans worked.
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Coevett wrote:
His coach is Amar Benida. He is the husband and former coach of Nouria Mérah-Benida, who you may remember literally came out of.nowhere at the age of 31 to win the 1500m Olympic gold at Sydney, and then promptly retired.
Dirtier than a Calcutta sewer.
By your standards, this is pretty accurate commentary. You are missing the fact that she did promptly retire, but we did find out that was perhaps due to her having a kid? She DNS'ed her semi at Worlds but if my math serves me she was ~2 months pregnant at that point, so I wouldn't frame it as you did. She came back and ran all the way into her late 30s.
The 2000 season is a definite outlier though, and certainly one of the more surprising champions ever. She had a 1:59.49 800m and a couple of 4:05s in 1999, but nothing like that season.
Here is more on her, as she was a sprinter until meeting her coach and husband, it's maybe not as surprising she'd find her peak as a middle-distance runner later:12 -
Coevett wrote:
His coach is Amar Benida. He is the husband and former coach of Nouria Mérah-Benida, who you may remember literally came out of.nowhere at the age of 31 to win the 1500m Olympic gold at Sydney, and then promptly retired.
Dirtier than a Calcutta sewer.
Not as dirty as Sebastian Coe, Steve Ovett and Steve Cram, the greatest dopers and the shame of middle distance. They benefitted from early EPO developed in the "sports lab" in Loughborough university, well before it became available to the rest of the world (late 80s , 90s). They led the way in doping, all subsequent doping eras and programmes are a direct consequence of their cheating.
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unequivocally, undeniably, indisputably, inconceivably, unimaginably, irrepressibly doped to the dorsals
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EPO wasn”t developed in Britain. You savages just make things upand state them as facts.
Btw, El G was as dirty as they come.
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Coevett wrote:
Fhjnvg wrote:
He’ll get a medal in Paris and in a few year’s time his medal will need to be reallocated. Same story over and over again from these North Africans.
More likely he will win gold in Paris, then in a couple of years get a whereabouts failure suspension. When he returns from suspension, he will struggle to break 1:50. Rekkie and Thoughtlessleader will continue to defend him.
If you stuck reasonably close to the facts and the truth, I wouldn't reply.
I was unsurprised to see someone else say "Historically there isn't a single runner from North Africa that was stripped from a world or Olympic medal."
And in light the fact that Coe is still #3 all time, with a performance from 1981, just how are you calculating these likelihoods?
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Fhjnvg wrote:
Same story over and over again from these North Africans.
What North Africans have been sanctioned for doping?
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
By your standards, this is pretty accurate commentary. You are missing the fact that she did promptly retire, but we did find out that was perhaps due to her having a kid? She DNS'ed her semi at Worlds but if my math serves me she was ~2 months pregnant at that point, so I wouldn't frame it as you did. She came back and ran all the way into her late 30s.The 2000 season is a definite outlier though, and certainly one of the more surprising champions ever. She had a 1:59.49 800m and a couple of 4:05s in 1999, but nothing like that season.
Here is more on her, as she was a sprinter until meeting her coach and husband, it's maybe not as surprising she'd find her peak as a middle-distance runner later:
You really do defend the indefensible. Leave it to Rekrunner, and stick to your power rankings.
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TheRealTaro wrote:
What North Africans have been sanctioned for doping?
19 Moroccans currently serving suspensions or bans. Probably at least 20 'Europeans' busted in the last decade have been of NA descent. Then all the 'Bahranian' Moroccan and Algerians busted...
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Where is this North Africa country located ?
Why do you mix moroccans with Algerians ? What is wrong with you.
The only Algerians suspended in the past are:
1) Souad Aït Salem (Torasemide)
2) Youcef Belaïli(footballer, cocaïn addict (not surprised if he still uses cocaïn and smokes weed))
3) Zahra Bouras (Stanozolol) -retired
4) Larbi Bourrada(Stanozolol) - retired
5) Abderahmane Djemadi (refused to submit to doping test) - retired
6) Ali Saïdi-Sief (nandrolone) -retired
That's it that's all.
Putting algerians and moroccans in the same basket is dishonest.
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gdz wrote:
Where is this North Africa country located ?
Why do you mix moroccans with Algerians ? What is wrong with you.
The only Algerians suspended in the past are:
1) Souad Aït Salem (Torasemide)
2) Youcef Belaïli(footballer, cocaïn addict (not surprised if he still uses cocaïn and smokes weed))
3) Zahra Bouras (Stanozolol) -retired
4) Larbi Bourrada(Stanozolol) - retired
5) Abderahmane Djemadi (refused to submit to doping test) - retired
6) Ali Saïdi-Sief (nandrolone) -retired
That's it that's all.
Putting algerians and moroccans in the same basket is dishonest.
MAKDADDY somehow barely escaped this list :)
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