LOL Tell that to Kate Moss, Gisele Bundchen, etc, etc, etc.
Mu isn’t a model. Mu has modeled a couple of times but nothing that is indicative of a large paycheck, such as a campaign. She is likely to earn significantly more modeling as a track star than as a typical model in the fashion industry. Very, very few models can make a living off of modeling. Kate Moss, Gisele, Naomi Campbell, Daria Werbowy are the exceptions.
Her recent work with Neiman Marcus and Coca Cola are excellent starts. Not bad for "a couple of times." Of course the Coca Cola campaign is part of the company's partnership with the International Olympic Committee. Nike has also been featuring her a lot recently. You were saying?
LOL Tell that to Kate Moss, Gisele Bundchen, etc, etc, etc.
Mu isn’t a model. Mu has modeled a couple of times but nothing that is indicative of a large paycheck, such as a campaign. She is likely to earn significantly more modeling as a track star than as a typical model in the fashion industry. Very, very few models can make a living off of modeling. Kate Moss, Gisele, Naomi Campbell, Daria Werbowy are the exceptions.
You forgot Adriana Lima, Alessandra Ambrosio, Miranda Kerr and about 20 others. Of course those first three have focused more on family recently but have earned enough to never have to work again and they still occasionally will do some work (a one day photo shoot for a million dollars can be difficult to turn down.)
You are quite entertaining, with such absolute statements about things you know next to nothing about. You are one of the posters here who should definitely not quit your day job.
I mean it's obvious this point that Kersee is a control freak and any athlete that has the gumption to challenge his authority will run into problems. This might work better for McLaughlin who seems to be more deferent towards authority based on all the god talk and how she talks about Kersee. But for someone like Mu who might be more independent, this is bound to create friction.
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This whole crazy situation with Mu entering, then dropping, then entering, then dropping again means something crazy has been going on behind the scene.
Do you think that Mu was insisting on running and Kersee didn't want her to run?
Or do you think that Kersee kept insisting that Mu should run, and Mu is refusing to run?
My guess is the first one.
Mu once said she would love to attempt the 400/800 double someday (a la Alberto Juantorena.)
Kersee has stated that he is opposed to Mu and McLaughlin both competing in the 400 flat.
Well Sydney is not running the 400 flat. And what does this even matter. Doesn't iron sharpen iron. That's what I keep hearing Sydney say.
If she is not getting on with her coach, find another coach. People like to live their lives with so much drama.
He runs his training group like a freaking occult. The church of Bobby Kersee. Here's one for you guys - you'll never see any of his athletes in Eugene warming up in the warmup facility like everyone else does. They have to warm up down at South Eugene high school where Bobby observes from his deck chair and he never ever bothers to watch his athletes compete live. Now it's only 5min by car to Hayward but it's not the point - it's this elitist control game with him where he dictates everything his athletes do - no wonder they all look miserable out there on track, I would hate to have my career experience dictated by that guy.
Some people like to be told exactly what to do. Some people don't.
Athing Mu doesn't strike as the type of person who likes to be controlled. Which is why I don't think she will keep Kersee as her coach much longer.
Totally - and why should she? She's a 21 year old woman living in the most "free" nation on earth. Who wants some 70 year narcissist dictating every move of their professional career?
Maybe she snapped her ACL like Frerich's and we won't know until right before Pre.
But then she wouldn't have been in, then out, then in again, then out again.
We don't know if she actually entered and withdrew multiple times or not. She just had her picture added and removed from the meets website a few times. Maybe that "in and out" is on the meet more than the athlete.
Mu once said she would love to attempt the 400/800 double someday (a la Alberto Juantorena.)
Kersee has stated that he is opposed to Mu and McLaughlin both competing in the 400 flat.
If you're right, and Mu wants to be competitive in the 400 and Kersee won't let her, then it seems unlikely that Mu will stick with Kersee long term.
Better make decisions soon if she actually wants to race when she's fast. She's 22 years old in a couple weeks. Track careers don't last forever. A 400/800 meter runner typically runs their best times around age 22-24. When you're young it feels like you have all the time in the world, but it goes quick. Donavan Brazier is now 27 and it looks like the peak of his career is behind him when he was 22.
Don't know the guy, can't help to think he must be a super coach protecting his athletes to the max and bringing them what they want; the win, no matter how. If I'd be a pro and talented I'd want nothing less.
You need to be able to believe, be extreme and confine to your coach. Athing and Sidney are extreme super talented personalities. Kersee is just the best for them. Bless he doesn't give a F for what others think. Which is the only right spirit of the really great ones.
But then she wouldn't have been in, then out, then in again, then out again.
We don't know if she actually entered and withdrew multiple times or not. She just had her picture added and removed from the meets website a few times. Maybe that "in and out" is on the meet more than the athlete.
The meet didn't just delete and add Mu's photo several times. They kept adding and removing her name, and also kept re-writing the paragraph next to the women's 400. That's not multiple accidents by a stupid web guy. That was deliberate. Something was going on.
Heard it Saturday that Sidney is running the intermediates in the Olympics.
I heard the Saturday before that that Sydney was running the 400H at the LA Grand Prix and Athing Mu was running the 400 at the same meet. Neither of those two things happened. Don't believe everything that Bobby Kersee says.
Mu once said she would love to attempt the 400/800 double someday (a la Alberto Juantorena.)
Kersee has stated that he is opposed to Mu and McLaughlin both competing in the 400 flat.
Well Sydney is not running the 400 flat. And what does this even matter. Doesn't iron sharpen iron. That's what I keep hearing Sydney say.
It doesn't matter what Sydney says, since Sydney is not Athing Mu's coach, Bobby Kersee is. And he said he doesn't want Athing competing with Sydney in the 400. I'm surprised that Athing has put up with that this long.
Mu isn’t a model. Mu has modeled a couple of times but nothing that is indicative of a large paycheck, such as a campaign. She is likely to earn significantly more modeling as a track star than as a typical model in the fashion industry. Very, very few models can make a living off of modeling. Kate Moss, Gisele, Naomi Campbell, Daria Werbowy are the exceptions.
Her recent work with Neiman Marcus and Coca Cola are excellent starts. Not bad for "a couple of times." Of course the Coca Cola campaign is part of the company's partnership with the International Olympic Committee. Nike has also been featuring her a lot recently. You were saying?
Thank you, you have quite literally proven my point: she is not a “model” in these advertisements, but a notable track personality. She would not have landed these spots if she were not an Olympic-level athlete. You wouldn’t call Rihanna a model, simply because she once landed a Dior campaign; you’d call Rihanna an entertainer first.
Big difference between an endorsed personality and a model who is simply showing off clothing.
Again: very few models are hugely successful, and those who are usually go through years of unpaid runway work and unpaid editorial photo shoots. She stands to earn significantly more money from track (and its endorsements) than the modeling industry.
As for your reference to my day job: I work with models in the beauty and fashion industries. I am overseeing castings the next 2 days with 200+ models per day. This *IS* my day job.
Mu is a generational talent, she could possibly pull off the 400/800 double, but I am afraid we will never see her try that.
The most ridiculous part is that Kersee has publicly admitted that he doesn't want to train Athing Mu for the 400, because he doesn't want "teammates" Sydney and Athing competing in the same event. Kersee doesn't even try to hide that's what he is doing.
Every other training group in the country has more than one person running the same event. Can you imagine Bowerman saying, "Sorry, but we can only have one women who is allowed to run the 5k"?
And then to make matters worse, Kersee just said today to NBC that Sydney won't be running the 400 anyway. So Kersee could have been training Mu in the 400/800 this whole year.
I think that Mu will find a new coach right after the Olympics.
The tendency for women in the 800 is to run extra yardage to avoid tripping is a clear indication of poor strategies. This further underscores the need for a new coach for Athing Mu. Why not run along the rail during the first lap and gradually move up during the last lap? She is clearly superior to all other half-milers in the world. She should run 1:53. But that might never happen trying to lead he entire distance!
That huge drop for Mu occurred when she left high school for Texas A and M, where she had top 400/800 coaches and training partners, plus she already had underdistance pr's that were years ahead of her 800m times.
Her recent work with Neiman Marcus and Coca Cola are excellent starts. Not bad for "a couple of times." Of course the Coca Cola campaign is part of the company's partnership with the International Olympic Committee. Nike has also been featuring her a lot recently. You were saying?
Thank you, you have quite literally proven my point: she is not a “model” in these advertisements, but a notable track personality. She would not have landed these spots if she were not an Olympic-level athlete. You wouldn’t call Rihanna a model, simply because she once landed a Dior campaign; you’d call Rihanna an entertainer first.
Big difference between an endorsed personality and a model who is simply showing off clothing.
Again: very few models are hugely successful, and those who are usually go through years of unpaid runway work and unpaid editorial photo shoots. She stands to earn significantly more money from track (and its endorsements) than the modeling industry.
As for your reference to my day job: I work with models in the beauty and fashion industries. I am overseeing castings the next 2 days with 200+ models per day. This *IS* my day job.
Yes, you are working with 200 C team models, that is clear. Your Rhianna analogy is a semantic argument, when anyone works as a model they are a model at that point in time. You conveniently left out the Nieman-Marcus video. Saying she stands to earn significantly more from track is absurd, no one can say how her earnings from modeling may play out, but to earn significant income from modeling will require she make the right moves and working with your 200 model C team crew is not one of them.
Mu isn’t a model. Mu has modeled a couple of times but nothing that is indicative of a large paycheck, such as a campaign. She is likely to earn significantly more modeling as a track star than as a typical model in the fashion industry. Very, very few models can make a living off of modeling. Kate Moss, Gisele, Naomi Campbell, Daria Werbowy are the exceptions.
Her recent work with Neiman Marcus and Coca Cola are excellent starts. Not bad for "a couple of times." Of course the Coca Cola campaign is part of the company's partnership with the International Olympic Committee. Nike has also been featuring her a lot recently. You were saying?
Let us know when she starts getting modelling gigs unrelated to her status as an elite athlete. If she were to quit the sport her modelling "career" would disappear instantly.
He runs his training group like a freaking occult. The church of Bobby Kersee. Here's one for you guys - you'll never see any of his athletes in Eugene warming up in the warmup facility like everyone else does. They have to warm up down at South Eugene high school where Bobby observes from his deck chair and he never ever bothers to watch his athletes compete live. Now it's only 5min by car to Hayward but it's not the point - it's this elitist control game with him where he dictates everything his athletes do - no wonder they all look miserable out there on track, I would hate to have my career experience dictated by that guy.
Is the South Eugene thing true? Does he make sure he can use the track? Would be crazy if some all comers meet was going on and they couldn't use it.
Her recent work with Neiman Marcus and Coca Cola are excellent starts. Not bad for "a couple of times." Of course the Coca Cola campaign is part of the company's partnership with the International Olympic Committee. Nike has also been featuring her a lot recently. You were saying?
Let us know when she starts getting modelling gigs unrelated to her status as an elite athlete. If she were to quit the sport her modelling "career" would disappear instantly.
I see reading comprehension is not your strong point (earlier post.) She is already established as an athletic icon, that isn't going to go away. She also has a good look. So what if her athletic status opened the door?
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