Get a life Hoady - the upvoting and downvoting is getting ridiculous!
You really think only one person knows you are lying? Just address it. Why did you lie?
When a comment gets 5 or more down votes or upvotes in the space of a minute when the place is dead at 6 am ET then there is only one person sad enough to be responsible, Hoady.
You really think only one person knows you are lying? Just address it. Why did you lie?
When a comment gets 5 or more down votes or upvotes in the space of a minute when the place is dead at 6 am ET then there is only one person sad enough to be responsible, Hoady.
By focusing on the irrelevant, that doping has long been part of sport, you deflect from what is central, which is that it continues to spread and in particular it infects Kenyan running so that we see their athletes being busted on a weekly basis. You make the same absurd arguments again and again, that seek to minimise Kenyan doping, on the threads that are posted weekly with the latest Kenyan doping violations, which obviously shows the facts are the very opposite of what you claim.
I'm happy to correct my thinking in light of contradictory facts. Which facts contradict which absurd arguments and which claims?
I agree that doping has infected Kenyan running, and that doping busts increased with increased testing. I never doubt doping prevelance exists.
You got it backwards again. Because the AIU became aware of the hard-core doping in Kenya, and the lack of action of ADAK, they went it with more effort and resources than ever. And the success of catching so many cheats, including world record holders, Olympic and word champions, and marathon majors winners, proves them right.
I'm happy to correct my thinking in light of contradictory facts. Which facts contradict which absurd arguments and which claims?
I agree that doping has infected Kenyan running, and that doping busts increased with increased testing. I never doubt doping prevelance exists.
You got it backwards again. Because the AIU became aware of the hard-core doping in Kenya, and the lack of action of ADAK, they went it with more effort and resources than ever. And the success of catching so many cheats, including world record holders, Olympic and word champions, and marathon majors winners, proves them right.
I'm happy to correct my thinking in light of contradictory facts. Which facts contradict which absurd arguments and which claims?
I agree that doping has infected Kenyan running, and that doping busts increased with increased testing. I never doubt doping prevelance exists.
You got it backwards again. Because the AIU became aware of the hard-core doping in Kenya, and the lack of action of ADAK, they went it with more effort and resources than ever. And the success of catching so many cheats, including world record holders, Olympic and word champions, and marathon majors winners, proves them right.
I feel like the goalpost keeps sliding, each time I basically agree with a point made by Armstronglivs. First it is about a Kenyan list which can only grow -- the one thing (only thing?) Armstronglivs is secure about. I agreed. Then it is about how that list grows compared to other nations' lists. WADA says many nations have many doping busts. Then it is about other countries' dopers not being distance runners. I had a similar question. Then it is about whether doping is going away. It's been around since the ancient Greeks -- who thinks it will go away? On the forth iteration, I learned that the "central" point all along is that doping is infecting Kenyan running and that busts are frequent. I also agreed. Now you claim I got something "backwards"? Surely, although I said "with", the right direction is that increased testing resulted in increased busts. Neither of us discussed the motivation for increased testing, nor whether the motivation was proven right.
It's clear Armstronglivs won't be able to answer this with any specific details, but do you have any answer for which "facts are the very opposite of what (I) claim"? I don't see which claim he is referring to that are the opposite of which facts.
Now that you've opened yet another door about Kenya's "hard-core" doping, where does that characterization come from? What do you mean by "hard-core"? WADA and the AIU and the recently formed ADAK (in 2016) have looked into Kenyan doping for more than a decade now. Have they ever characterized Kenyan doping as "hard-core" doping? Do you have a quote or a reference to a document?
You got it backwards again. Because the AIU became aware of the hard-core doping in Kenya, and the lack of action of ADAK, they went it with more effort and resources than ever. And the success of catching so many cheats, including world record holders, Olympic and word champions, and marathon majors winners, proves them right.
I feel like the goalpost keeps sliding, each time I basically agree with a point made by Armstronglivs. First it is about a Kenyan list which can only grow -- the one thing (only thing?) Armstronglivs is secure about. I agreed. Then it is about how that list grows compared to other nations' lists. WADA says many nations have many doping busts. Then it is about other countries' dopers not being distance runners. I had a similar question. Then it is about whether doping is going away. It's been around since the ancient Greeks -- who thinks it will go away? On the forth iteration, I learned that the "central" point all along is that doping is infecting Kenyan running and that busts are frequent. I also agreed. Now you claim I got something "backwards"? Surely, although I said "with", the right direction is that increased testing resulted in increased busts. Neither of us discussed the motivation for increased testing, nor whether the motivation was proven right.
It's clear Armstronglivs won't be able to answer this with any specific details, but do you have any answer for which "facts are the very opposite of what (I) claim"? I don't see which claim he is referring to that are the opposite of which facts.
Now that you've opened yet another door about Kenya's "hard-core" doping, where does that characterization come from? What do you mean by "hard-core"? WADA and the AIU and the recently formed ADAK (in 2016) have looked into Kenyan doping for more than a decade now. Have they ever characterized Kenyan doping as "hard-core" doping? Do you have a quote or a reference to a document?
You don't make any single coherent point. You agree that the list of Kenyan dopers continues to grow but dismiss it with the nonsense that "all lists do". (Well, actually - they don't. They can have a finite capacity.) You responses come down to little more than your constant striving to suggest the parade of doping violations amongst Kenyan athletes isn't really that bad and is no worse than anywhere else. This is palpable nonsense but what makes it even more ridiculous is that you are making essentially the same point thread after thread on the latest Kenyan doping violations.
You really think only one person knows you are lying? Just address it. Why did you lie?
When a comment gets 5 or more down votes or upvotes in the space of a minute when the place is dead at 6 am ET then there is only one person sad enough to be responsible, Hoady.
It's pretty comical you suggesting that I'm 'paranoid' for thinking 7 downvotes in a minute (and then 1 or 2 in the next hour) is suspicious, when you have yet another throwaway account unimaginatively named with a few random letters (I assume you have aspergers or something). Yeah, I'm really paranoid to be suspicous of this, and the suspicion that all these similarly named accounts expressing the same view, and usually brining in the same creepy racial science views (and Keino and Bayi) are all different people with a legitimate reason to dislike me. Get a life Hoady, seriously.
You don't make any single coherent point. You agree that the list of Kenyan dopers continues to grow but dismiss it with the nonsense that "all lists do". (Well, actually - they don't. They can have a finite capacity.) You responses come down to little more than your constant striving to suggest the parade of doping violations amongst Kenyan athletes isn't really that bad and is no worse than anywhere else. This is palpable nonsense but what makes it even more ridiculous is that you are making essentially the same point thread after thread on the latest Kenyan doping violations.
That's rich coming from someone who essentially makes the same point thread after thread, never looking beyond the sensational headlines.
All the lists are finite. A finite capacity can still become quite large, but here we only speak of tens or hundreds, depending on the timeframe.
When it comes to understanding Kenyan doping today, I prefer to let WADA and the AIU and ADAK make the coherent points, rather than entertain the emotional ramblings from the imaginations of anonymous posters who don't seem to be particularly well informed.
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