If it's not an educational setting, and both are above the age of consent in your state, I'm not sure who you would report this to, and what outcome you are expecting by doing this.
1) IT appears the OP is posting from Canada so Safesport doesn't apply does it.
2) These Safesport guidelines are well intentioned but seem insane to me. It says they assume there is a power imbalance. Do they ever consider that for the pros the one with the power is often the athlete? The coach can hire and fire the coach at any point.
Canada has its version of SafeSport as well although I am not familiar with the specifics.
Curious where in the SafeSport code you found this.
I just renewed and as I'm sure you know, all USATF coaches have to be SafeSport certified, so I can assure you that it's in the training and in the code, however, that doesn't mean that every relationship is a violation. I'm not sure on the dates, but Mike Smith of NAU and Rachel (Schneider) Smith obviously were/are a thing and could have fallen into this scenario and they ended up fine. Every situation is not the same and that's why there are allegations and investigations. The rule is a good one and serves a purpose.
Here is the problem...I downloaded the SafeSport code and did a search and could not find that passage. Maybe you can find it since you are sure it is in there.
I just renewed and as I'm sure you know, all USATF coaches have to be SafeSport certified, so I can assure you that it's in the training and in the code, however, that doesn't mean that every relationship is a violation. I'm not sure on the dates, but Mike Smith of NAU and Rachel (Schneider) Smith obviously were/are a thing and could have fallen into this scenario and they ended up fine. Every situation is not the same and that's why there are allegations and investigations. The rule is a good one and serves a purpose.
Here is the problem...I downloaded the SafeSport code and did a search and could not find that passage. Maybe you can find it since you are sure it is in there.
Start on page 4 with "consent" then go to page 6 to define "power Imbalance" then check page 15, "Other inappropriate contact." What "Unsafe Sport" posted was an accurate summarization of the SafeSport rules.
Still blown away that this is creating so much controversy, it's not a new, SafeSport was formed in 2017 to combat the Larry Nasser type of abuse in Olympic sports and this has been part of the code since inception. The Nasser case exemplifies how 1 person in a position of power can do horrible things without adequate checks and balances. No one is prohibiting adult to adult relationships, they are just putting a yield sign and maybe a checkpoint along the route.
I'm starting to wonder about you people... sheesh!
Here is the problem...I downloaded the SafeSport code and did a search and could not find that passage. Maybe you can find it since you are sure it is in there.
Start on page 4 with "consent" then go to page 6 to define "power Imbalance" then check page 15, "Other inappropriate contact." What "Unsafe Sport" posted was an accurate summarization of the SafeSport rules.
Still blown away that this is creating so much controversy, it's not a new, SafeSport was formed in 2017 to combat the Larry Nasser type of abuse in Olympic sports and this has been part of the code since inception. The Nasser case exemplifies how 1 person in a position of power can do horrible things without adequate checks and balances. No one is prohibiting adult to adult relationships, they are just putting a yield sign and maybe a checkpoint along the route.
I'm starting to wonder about you people... sheesh!
Thanks. That would be helpful of you setting up a checkpoint with a yield sign on my route to bang my coach to help me reconsider.
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A running club? Who cares! The leaders of running clubs are usually just super nice people who love the sport and got suckered into doing something that nobody else wanted to do. She's not an authority figure. What's next? "My World of Warcraft guild leader is dating our main tank. Should I report it?" Get a life.
context matters. OP didn't give the context. is this US? canada? HS? travel club? college? adult? is this christian or secular? is the male an adult or a boy? how do they relate? varies from a "TV movie of the week" crime, to a safesport problem, to a mere morality discussion.
re the power balance discussion, anyone ask the male what he thinks? does he want your help? does he feel controlled? or is he happy? the law and morality are most concerned with the power issue and the minor situation.
side point but asking that question also gives them room to backpedal out and stop, it's an implicit, "we know." if they don't want your help they will say as much, and your response is then situation-specific. if they have a problem they might use the opportunity to vent any molestation or other unsavory issue. you then get involved from both legal and moral grounds.
like a kid on here the other day was beefing about a senior and a freshman. first you need to make sure this isn't just personal payback. but second, maybe ask the girl what she thinks. if she's like he corners me and is aggressive, you intervene. if she's like, he's hot, and you need to butt out, it may be a little icky but that's not my problem.
last, if this is religious or something like that, you may be inherently playing by different moral/religio-legal rules. school of st. suchandsuch may not approve.
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A running club? Who cares! The leaders of running clubs are usually just super nice people who love the sport and got suckered into doing something that nobody else wanted to do. She's not an authority figure. What's next? "My World of Warcraft guild leader is dating our main tank. Should I report it?" Get a life.
A guy referencing his "World of Warcraft guild" telling others to "get a life" is pretty rich.
You should take the person's advice and take the class if you are so curious. So many people commenting on things they know nothing about, no wonder there are coaches being arrested and banned daily it seems for doing stupid sh*t!
From the renewal materials I just did. It's amazing how no one understands that there is always nuance to every rule.
R. Power Imbalance
A Power Imbalance may exist:
1. Where one person is in a Position of Power such that, based on the totality of the circumstances, there is a Power Imbalance.
a. Whether someone occupies a Position of Power such that there is a Power Imbalance depends on several factors, including: the nature and extent of the supervisory, evaluative or other authority over the person; the actual relationship between the parties; the parties’ respective roles; the nature and duration of the relationship; the age of the adult; the age of the people involved.
b. Once a coach-Athlete relationship is established, a Power Imbalance is presumed to exist throughout the coach-Athlete relationship (regardless of age) and is presumed to continue for Minor Athletes after the coach-Athlete relationship terminates and the Athlete reaches 20 years of age. A Power Imbalance may exist, but is not presumed, where an Intimate Relationship existed before the sport relationship (e.g., a relationship between two spouses or life partners that preceded the sport relationship).
Is this really how it is written. Up top it says a power imbalance depends on the circumstances and then 1b) says a coach-athlete relationship is always a power imbalance? Those are contradictory statements.
A running club? Who cares! The leaders of running clubs are usually just super nice people who love the sport and got suckered into doing something that nobody else wanted to do. She's not an authority figure. What's next? "My World of Warcraft guild leader is dating our main tank. Should I report it?" Get a life.
A guy referencing his "World of Warcraft guild" telling others to "get a life" is pretty rich.
A running club? Who cares! The leaders of running clubs are usually just super nice people who love the sport and got suckered into doing something that nobody else wanted to do. She's not an authority figure. What's next? "My World of Warcraft guild leader is dating our main tank. Should I report it?" Get a life.
A guy referencing his "World of Warcraft guild" telling others to "get a life" is pretty rich.
Really? I didn't know you could make a lot of money playing Warcraft
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