Centrowitz had meniscus surgery two years ago right? There’s obviously different severities of meniscus injuries but it seems he was running back sooner.
I know old fart hobby joggers who had the surgery. Actually, many of them on both knees. They were never the same afterwards. But they were much older. Way past 50. Remarkably, the recovery time wasn't that long.
Centro's and Alicia's injuries are two very different things. Centro tore the meniscus and either would have had the tear repaired or removed. This is a 3 month recovery.
Alicia has torn the meniscus from the bone. Her surgery involves suturing the meniscus to the tibia through a tunnel drilled through the bone and the sutures attached to a small metal button. She will be on crutches for 4-6 weeks with no weight bearing on that leg. The meniscus needs to reattach itself to the bone which can take from 4-6 months. I had this surgery and started walk running on the alter G at 70% at 4 months post-op. At 6 months I started walk running outside with my first walk run of 5 x 1 minute. It is a very long recovery... This is devastating for her.
This is one of the reasons it sucks that track only has their showcase event every 4 years. Any real sport has a yearly championship so injuries like this don't eliminate an athlete from the spotlight that long. No sport that let's the Olympics be their biggest championship is a real sport.
So what are the real sports? T&f has a world championship basically yearly as do most Olympic sports.
Baseball, football, basketball, tennis, club soccer, and many more. Their biggest championship happen in yearly leagues, not some outside party that happens only 2.5 times a decade. If your sports biggest championship is the Olympics you aren't a real sport. Those other championships are less important than the Olympics.
The equivalent would be Lebron only mattering in the Olympics and not the NBA.
So this really only leaves Kelati with the standard, and then possibly Katie Izzo based on world ranking?
As nobody will run the standard at the trials, how do we see this playing out? Will the hopefuls without the standard try to get the standard again? Try to improve their ranking? I guess I don’t fully understand how the process works but this seems bleak.
Side note, I love Sisson as a marathoner but I can’t help but think she still had potential on the track. Her trials record in the 10K lapping the field and beating the likes of Monson, Cranny, Schweitzer, etc by a wide margin. She wasn't healthy in Tokyo but I think she could hypothetically place a bit higher.
Katie Izzo's there via Cross Country rankings, which are separate from the 10,000m/10k rankings. Since the XC season is over, she's locked in on XC rankings. Natosha Rogers, Elly Henes and Fiona O'Keefe (if she wants to try the 10,000m after making the team in the Marathon) are also high enough in the World Rankings at the moment.
Natosha Rogers is a lot closer to the cut-off. She's only just above the 27th-ranked person (excluding athletes from countries with more than 3 people with the rankings/standard like the USA, GB, Ethiopia and Kenya). She's 14 points over Camilla Richardsson from Finland. She's more likely to run the Marathon because she ran the Marathon standard in Valencia.
Laura Galván is the closest to her that's likely to want to run the 10000m, but she's 16 points away from Natosha. Laura already has the standard in the 5000m from her run in the Sifan Hassan-led heat from last year's Worlds.
Elise Cranny, Karissa Schweizer and Keira D'Amato are the closest to having the World Rankings to compete, but they'd have to run pretty decent times at USA's to make the team. Karissa wouldn't have to run as fast as the others to make it because her top points is higher than the cut-off mark, so far. The other two have smaller top points. Karissa ran 31:04.80 at The TEN and got 6th, so she has a mark of 1218 points, compared to Keira who ran 31:05.31 for 7th there. This scores 1213 points. Elise ran at Worlds and got 12th, running 31:57.51. This scores 1206 points. She gets higher placing points because she ran at Worlds whereas they ran at The TEN, which is only a Silver level meet. This is why her highest scoring race is close to theirs despite placing worse and running a slower time.
Parker Valby's collegiate record run is worth 1211 points, so she's in a similar position as Elise and Keira.
. . . Elise Cranny, Karissa Schweizer and Keira D'Amato are the closest to having the World Rankings to compete, but they'd have to run pretty decent times at USA's to make the team. Karissa wouldn't have to run as fast as the others to make it because her top points is higher than the cut-off mark, so far. The other two have smaller top points. Karissa ran 31:04.80 at The TEN and got 6th, so she has a mark of 1218 points, compared to Keira who ran 31:05.31 for 7th there. This scores 1213 points. . .Parker Valby's collegiate record run is worth 1211 points, so she's in a similar position as Elise and Keira.
Results from The TEN:
1 Tsigie Gebreselama 29:48.34 2 Weini Kelati 30:33.82 3 Lauren Ryan 30:35.66 4 Megan Keith 30:36.84 5 Rachel Smith 31:04.02 6 Karissa Schweizer 31:04.80 7 Keira D'Amato 31:05.31 8 Elly Henes 31:07.23
Schweizer stated post-TEN race she will be racing another 10k before the Trials. Expect her to get the 30:40 Q there as running a 31:04 off just 2-3 months of training shows how talented Karissa is.
Rather doubt Smith, D'Amato and Henes will be able to get their Qs before the Trials but expect them to be very competitive at the Trials.
If Parker runs the 10k at the Trials, can she run away from these 3, especially considering it will likely be pretty warm during the race?
So, following Monson's unfortunate news today, expecting Kelati & Schweizer be 1-2 at the Trials with the 3rd spot wide open.
Confirmed, it took Aisha a long time to comeback from the same surgery and injury. Another poster mentioned women’s sports medicine is still in the dark ages and I believe that to be true. Besides overuse, female hormones can play a role on tendon elasticity in certain phases of the monthly cycle. I'm curious to see 10-15yrs from now the advances that could be made in regards to high level training/injury prevention and tweaking it to accommodate hormonal shifts in women.
Funny how she kept this diagnosis and prognosis until a thread appeared on LetsRun saying she’s in trouble. Who else from OAC is badly injured? Hmm
Of course. Everything was hidden until that thread came out. Klecker and Andrews are next. Doubt they will be healthy enough to be a factor by June based on their lack of any kind of training for the last month
. . . Elise Cranny, Karissa Schweizer and Keira D'Amato are the closest to having the World Rankings to compete, but they'd have to run pretty decent times at USA's to make the team. Karissa wouldn't have to run as fast as the others to make it because her top points is higher than the cut-off mark, so far. The other two have smaller top points. Karissa ran 31:04.80 at The TEN and got 6th, so she has a mark of 1218 points, compared to Keira who ran 31:05.31 for 7th there. This scores 1213 points. . .Parker Valby's collegiate record run is worth 1211 points, so she's in a similar position as Elise and Keira.
Results from The TEN:
1 Tsigie Gebreselama 29:48.34 2 Weini Kelati 30:33.82 3 Lauren Ryan 30:35.66 4 Megan Keith 30:36.84 5 Rachel Smith 31:04.02 6 Karissa Schweizer 31:04.80 7 Keira D'Amato 31:05.31 8 Elly Henes 31:07.23
Schweizer stated post-TEN race she will be racing another 10k before the Trials. Expect her to get the 30:40 Q there as running a 31:04 off just 2-3 months of training shows how talented Karissa is.
Rather doubt Smith, D'Amato and Henes will be able to get their Qs before the Trials but expect them to be very competitive at the Trials.
If Parker runs the 10k at the Trials, can she run away from these 3, especially considering it will likely be pretty warm during the race?
So, following Monson's unfortunate news today, expecting Kelati & Schweizer be 1-2 at the Trials with the 3rd spot wide open.
So, will Schweizer double or go all in on the 10k? She still needs the 5k standard this year...
The heat is an asset for Valby as she runs very well in the heat, doesn't seem phased by it. The hotter it is, the better her chances. Kelati doesn't seem as strong in the heat.
Henes has a tough road. She seems to be working her way back still. I would be more confident in Schweizer or Rogers.
Morgan ran 4:11 tonight (in the rain) in her first race back from surgery. Cranny ran 2:02/ 4:09. Good but not great for her at this time.
Tuohy is injured.
Valby's chances in the 10k look pretty good right now... Maybe even 5k.
1 Tsigie Gebreselama 29:48.34 2 Weini Kelati 30:33.82 3 Lauren Ryan 30:35.66 4 Megan Keith 30:36.84 5 Rachel Smith 31:04.02 6 Karissa Schweizer 31:04.80 7 Keira D'Amato 31:05.31 8 Elly Henes 31:07.23
Schweizer stated post-TEN race she will be racing another 10k before the Trials. Expect her to get the 30:40 Q there as running a 31:04 off just 2-3 months of training shows how talented Karissa is.
Rather doubt Smith, D'Amato and Henes will be able to get their Qs before the Trials but expect them to be very competitive at the Trials.
If Parker runs the 10k at the Trials, can she run away from these 3, especially considering it will likely be pretty warm during the race?
So, following Monson's unfortunate news today, expecting Kelati & Schweizer be 1-2 at the Trials with the 3rd spot wide open.
So, will Schweizer double or go all in on the 10k? She still needs the 5k standard this year...
The heat is an asset for Valby as she runs very well in the heat, doesn't seem phased by it. The hotter it is, the better her chances. Kelati doesn't seem as strong in the heat.
Henes has a tough road. She seems to be working her way back still. I would be more confident in Schweizer or Rogers.
Morgan ran 4:11 tonight (in the rain) in her first race back from surgery. Cranny ran 2:02/ 4:09. Good but not great for her at this time.
Tuohy is injured.
Valby's chances in the 10k look pretty good right now... Maybe even 5k.
Maybe the 5k? She seems like a shoe in behind Cranny, Elle and Schweizer/ Rodger’s
Out of the Olympics? Sorry but see didn’t even make the team yet so that’s a bit premature to suggest. Anything could have happened! Oh wait - it did. Didn’t even make it to the Trials!