25x400 with short rest is a great workout, I frequently do something similar. What surprises me is that he says he does this same session every single week. I guess when you're doing 5+ interval workouts a week it makes sense to repeat them.
ya it seems he goes with a 400s day and 1000s day in the afternoon every week. and in the mornings pretty much 4 or 5x 2k. sometimes 3k.
and then the saturday hills or more race specific workout.
I was struck by how the peak heart rate was almost exactly the same for every rep starting with about the 3rd one. I was also surprised by some of the stuff Jakob said about doing the same sessions week in, week out, year in, year out., giving your body a fairly constant load. Also he said that you should have periods where you are carrying fatigue from one workout to the next but you do the workouts anyway.
To me, this is kind of the opposite of what Renato preaches. My interpretation of Renato's training is to always keep the body guessing by switching things up. Also, Renato gives an athlete a hard workout and the schedule isn't written in stone for the next workout because he wants to see how the athlete recovered from that hard workout.
I'd be curious what Renato thinks of Jakob's training and the double threshold concept. Some of Renato's "Special Blocks" might superficially look like double threshold a la Jakob but they are much harder. One of Renato's principles for the "Special Blocks" is to go into them well recovered and to also recover well after you do them.
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25x400 with short rest is a great workout, I frequently do something similar. What surprises me is that he says he does this same session every single week. I guess when you're doing 5+ interval workouts a week it makes sense to repeat them.
ya it seems he goes with a 400s day and 1000s day in the afternoon every week. and in the mornings pretty much 4 or 5x 2k. sometimes 3k.
and then the saturday hills or more race specific workout.
But he never runs steady mileage. Yep, you have the right one, baby.
I was struck by how the peak heart rate was almost exactly the same for every rep starting with about the 3rd one. I was also surprised by some of the stuff Jakob said about doing the same sessions week in, week out, year in, year out., giving your body a fairly constant load. Also he said that you should have periods where you are carrying fatigue from one workout to the next but you do the workouts anyway.
To me, this is kind of the opposite of what Renato preaches. My interpretation of Renato's training is to always keep the body guessing by switching things up. Also, Renato gives an athlete a hard workout and the schedule isn't written in stone for the next workout because he wants to see how the athlete recovered from that hard workout.
I'd be curious what Renato thinks of Jakob's training and the double threshold concept. Some of Renato's "Special Blocks" might superficially look like double threshold a la Jakob but they are much harder. One of Renato's principles for the "Special Blocks" is to go into them well recovered and to also recover well after you do them.
Definitely in the specific training blocks Canova works as you say. Periods before are more constant load, but still mixing it up a lot, hitting all the paces regularly.
To address your second point, I’ve watched some training videos of members of the Norwegian national triathlon team and they do these “pick ups” at threshold pace before the actual workout too. Not sure what the reasoning is behind this though.
It makes sure all your enzymes are activated by the time you start the workout. Actually a good suggestion if you're feeling flat before races is to hit 10k pace for a minute to fully fire up the muscle metabolism.
There's an old Jack Daniels thread on Letsrun I recall that mentions the first rep usually as the warm up rep in these type of LT intervals. Like your body needs to warm up 60-90 seconds to reach the right lactate. It was a bunch of physiology heavyweights including Marius Bakken chiming in. These pickups seem to bring the the body up to the right level before the session, avoiding the need to for this warmup rep.
I remember he did a workout at Nike hq before the prefontaine classic and it was something like 2x2 mins at threshold, then did his race pace workout, I wouldn’t be shocked if he did the same pickup for this one
Good advice, he has gone insane, I mean his quote, "Jakob will therefore NOT RUN 12:15 ON EPO in 2024, more like 15:15----missing the target by a bomb!!!!!" proves that he is clinically insane, and based on the upvotes and downvotes this guy is nuts.
Look you should clarify things with me otherwise you also make the moderators look stupid did you know that????
ARTIFICIAL EPO can react adversely with natural human biology and cause death, not to mention running slower in 15:15!!!!
Renato Canova has said that drugs do not work for naturally harnessed and conditioned East Africans who are unspoiled and unradiated, and to a certain extent also white males who are the same. Taken to its extreme it means that drugs could even kill and cause death in East Africans who are unspoiled and unradiated whether in the short-term or long term and there doesn't need to be an experimental death in an actualized scientific experiment on this subject in an East African for me to DEDUCE my way to such conclusions, IT'S DEDUCEDDDDDDDD-----do you get it?????
And you haven't answered my question about what's the most ubiquitous energy form in the cosmos?????? Before you conclude that I'm insane that is!!!!! If you can get the answer right I will be insane just for you if you know what I mean!!!!
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Jakob has partnered with Coros and is running in a Pace 3. There's a new blog post that details a recent workout in case anyone is interested. He's clearly healthy and appears on a schedule for another great season.
1) Loose contact between charging cable and watch port that often doesn’t charge unless you plug it out and back in a few times. They don’t provide an adapter with which it reliably works, just a cable.
2) Garmin seems to automatically recognize most weight training exercises and shows a muscle map, but stupid Coros wants you to manually tell it what exercises or body parts you are training to create a muscle heat map.
Does anyone know if this Coros heart rate monitor will save data if you don't want to keep it connected to the app in real time? I can wear my Polar H10 without pairing and then later connect it to the app and the saved data is transferred.
I like the idea of doing the same or similar workouts every week. I've done a summer of 400s every week, and then I'd do a day of tempo, which could be mile repeats, or often 3 miles, then 2 miles, then 1 mile. And then fit in one fast day. Possibly only every 2 or 3 weeks, instead of every week.
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