Kessler did run a 3:48.66 mile which converts to 3:31.77 for the 1500. This is also early days as far as this season.
Mile does not convert to anything. You don't have a time untill you run it.
Even if it would, it still would be slightly worse than Laros at 18. Don't get me wrong, Kessler is very talented and an elite runner. He is just a step behind compared to Jakob, Laros and Myers.
Equal to August in the northern hemisphere where most runners peak.
Of course I know that the best runners in Australia possibly try to peak for the Olympics.
They have, however, had the possibility to train in warm weather over the summer so they should be in better shape than runners from this side of the globe.
One must say though that Kessler is a notch less talented than "the rest of Jakobs".
Here's the order of talent from my point of view:
1) Jakob at 17yo - 3:31.18
2) Laros at 18yo - 3:31.25
3) Myers at 17yo - 3:33.26
4) Kessler at 18yo - 3:34.36
*Reynold Kipkorir Cheruiyot at 18yo - 3:30.30
Myers is still 17 untill June, so he has a chance to even best Jakob.
I disagree. Kessler was a world class rock climber when he was in HS. He didn't start running seriously until he was 16. Jakob had been running seriously since he was like 10. I remember when Kessler ran 3:57i, and no one had heard of him because his PR had been 4:18.
Kessler just ran 3:48i at age 20. Only Nuguse, El G, and Kejelcha are faster. I'm still banking on Kessler being the most talented of the "Jakob clones". Plus his form is the best in the game.
Jakob has never run an indoor mile but he ran 3:28.68 in the 1500m when he was 19.
Kessler`s 1500m PB at 20 (almost 21) is 4 seconds slower.
For how long will you and your likes make excuses for Kessler due to his late training start. 5 more years or 10?
When they were 18 Jakob was more than 4 sec faster. 19: Almost 6 sec faster. 20: More than 4 sec faster.
21?
Talking about talent is different than talking about accomplishments. I was replying to posts talking about talent. You are talking about accomplishments. It's early in Kessler's career. He can develop a lot more. How many world level races has he done total vs. how many Jakob has done? Jakob has less room for improvement, don't you agree?
I disagree. Kessler was a world class rock climber when he was in HS. He didn't start running seriously until he was 16. Jakob had been running seriously since he was like 10. I remember when Kessler ran 3:57i, and no one had heard of him because his PR had been 4:18.
Kessler just ran 3:48i at age 20. Only Nuguse, El G, and Kejelcha are faster. I'm still banking on Kessler being the most talented of the "Jakob clones". Plus his form is the best in the game.
Jakob has never run an indoor mile but he ran 3:28.68 in the 1500m when he was 19.
Kessler`s 1500m PB at 20 (almost 21) is 4 seconds slower.
…and the current 1500m world champion had a PB of 3:35.01 when he was 19. 6.3 seconds slower than Jakob.
Kessler did run a 3:48.66 mile which converts to 3:31.77 for the 1500. This is also early days as far as this season.
Mile does not convert to anything. You don't have a time untill you run it.
Even if it would, it still would be slightly worse than Laros at 18. Don't get me wrong, Kessler is very talented and an elite runner. He is just a step behind compared to Jakob, Laros and Myers.
This feels a bit like a straw-man. All of these phenoms have different situations/contexts. Going into his age 17-18 season, Kessler had the least years of training and Jakob had the most. So it was impressive that Kessler ran even close to what the others did, but not surprising they've had more linear improvement since.
Jakob: In a professional setup extremely early, in the medal hunt at age 18 Laros: In a professional setup early (age 15-16 it seems), just short of the medal hunt at age 18, TBD if medal threat at age 19? Kessler: Lightly trained until age 17, easing into pro setup and running 3:34 early and approaching national class, has had growing pains, but now inching forward with a lot of ground to gain Myers: Basically the same as Laros, and we will see if he has the breakthrough that Laros had, though he's ahead of his progress through age 17 Reynold: Pretty similar to Laros actually, in 2022 he won World Juniors in dominant fashion, was a hair off making the senior Kenyan team and flashed crazy upside, and is slightly ahead for now but also older
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Kessler ran 3:34 at 18yo which shows great talent. Not as impressive were the following years: 3:36 at 19yo, 3:32 at 20yo and finally now 3:33 at almost 21.
Myers ran 3:33 a month after turning 17. Laros ran 3:31 at 18yo. Insane levels to keep up with.
You are getting into development now. And curious you'd point out 20 and "almost 21" 🤷. Especially when he's run a winter 3:48 (=3:31), one of the top 5 ALL TIME at 20. Other than Jakob, we haven't seen the top end yet. I was just supporting Peach Pit's point that those comparisons by no deal due to Jakob training like a pro since 12 and Hobbs not anywhere near that when he hit 3:34. Not sure how you can really say based on age 17/18 times whether Jakob or Hobbs is more talented.
Jakob at 20 ran 3:28 to win Olympic Gold and a 12:48 5000 Diamond league win over Cheptegei. Hobbs is a great talent but I’m pretty comfortable saying Jakob is the greater talent.
We should add Ermias Girma to the phenom list, now that he’s back on track running 7:41.9 with a big kick in his off distance. 1:44.3/3:36 at age 17 and 2 World Juniors medals. Off year last year, but looks like a huge year upcoming. Close buddies and training partner of Laros, and if anything might be a bit ahead right now.