Yeah lets blame Kyle for firing the black man while not giving him any credit for hiring and working with DeMeco Ryans. By the way, in case anyone has doubts about Shanahan, I suggest you lookup what Shanahan said about Ryans prior to him getting hired by the Texans. Hint - it was the opposite of negative.
Kyle was only hired because of his father, that is how he got started. How in the hell are you an Offensive Coordinator at age 28? His claim to fame was being a bench warmer at Texas and his daddy was an NFL head coach.
DeMarco Ryans was an All-American linebacker at Alabama and played in the NFL. He was a Pro-Bowler and was NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. He knows the game at its most highest levels and has proven to be a great coach, as evidenced by what he did at Houston this year. Ryans, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin are I believe the only black head coaches who were under 40 before getting a head coaching position in the NFL. Tomlin has never finished below .500 since lead Pittsburgh in 2007. But somehow folks like Sean McVay are given HC jobs in the NFL at 30 and Lane Kiffin at 31, along with dozens of other white guys given HC jobs in their 30's in NFL modern era history.
Tomlin is the poster child for starting on 3rd base.
The number of NFL coaches who couldn't do as well or better than Tomlin has in Pittsburgh is very short.
Not sure why you are taking an adversarial tone when we probably agree. There absolutely are terrible coaches, both white and minorities, that get fired too soon and that get to stay too long (particularly at their alma mater).
We have no idea if the coach in question in this thread was fired for racist reasons or not.
My comment was regarding the data for larger trends, which have nothing to do with this coach or that.
I'm not digging to the peer-reviewed papers. You can do that yourself. But here is a sampling of articles that cover it pretty well.
They play the anthem. They have BLM slogans on the helmets and on the field.
They run a league that's majority black.
If you look for racism behind every tree your entire life you will think you see racism everywhere.
You sound stupid, prejudiced and shall I say racist in bringing up #BlackLivesMatter. We see where your little white fragile mind is.
A tiny fragile black mind like yours started this thread. Only in the tiny racist minds of people like you who are raised to blame racism for every negative thing that ever happens in life is the NFL racist.
BLM is relevant because the NFL bent over backwards for it.
If the NFL was systematically racist it would have told the racist marxist imbeciles running BLM to get bent. Instead they put the slogans on the fields and on the uniforms and paid millions for commercials to highlight it.
I find it interesting that people think that racism only exists in the Unites States. Or that the only race in the world that is capable of being racist is white. Both are an example of ignorance, or better yet, just plain stupidity. The OP is a troll and just loves to throw a race card whenever an opportunity presents itself. Try harder.
So when has a Defensive Coordinator been fired after the Superbowl or NFL Championship, their first year on the team?
Fired by a guy that is only coaching because his daddy was an NFL coach and he is white
There's less black coaches so the statistics are skewed by the smaller sample size.
Jumping on this and assuming racism is ridiculous particularly given the NFL's complete submission to BLM.
When the data set includes the entire population you have not sampled, by definition.
And my point was that I am NOT assuming racism in this case, specifically.
Saying that a trend is proof about a unique situation is fraught with peril and I know better than to do it.
And my point was if there's only 2 black coaches and 1 of them gets fired it's silly to jump and down and screech racism because 50% got fired which is what the people using the statistics are doing.
Did you watch SF play this year? They had a defense littered with superstars that vastly underperformed the talent it had. The GB game was an unmitigated disaster defensively and SF barely escaped that game. The Detroit game was not much better. They had a total of 2 sacks in those 2 games. Chase Young was basically invisible.
How about you just deal with a black person who stinks who then gets fired? It also should be noted that his predecessor (who left for Houston in the off season) also was black (it's hard to claim a team is "racist" when they routinely hire minorities) did a marvelous job turning around Houston this year. Too bad SF didn't have him this past year.
Just curious. When in the history of the NFL has a defensive coordinator fired after going to the Superbowl or NFL Championship game, their first year?
I don’t have the time or patience to read through all the comments but has this question been answered?
When the data set includes the entire population you have not sampled, by definition.
And my point was that I am NOT assuming racism in this case, specifically.
Saying that a trend is proof about a unique situation is fraught with peril and I know better than to do it.
And my point was if there's only 2 black coaches and 1 of them gets fired it's silly to jump and down and screech racism because 50% got fired which is what the people using the statistics are doing.
If there are only two in the entire league it's fair to say this is an issue
Just curious. When in the history of the NFL has a defensive coordinator fired after going to the Superbowl or NFL Championship game, their first year?
I don’t have the time or patience to read through all the comments but has this question been answered?
Ed Donatell just got fired from the Vikings after just 1 season after taking the team to the playoffs.
And my point was if there's only 2 black coaches and 1 of them gets fired it's silly to jump and down and screech racism because 50% got fired which is what the people using the statistics are doing.
If there are only two in the entire league it's fair to say this is an issue
I was using a small number to highlight the absurdity of using statistics to compare unequal sample sizes.
There were 9 minority coaches in 2024 which is 28% of the coaches.
This is means black coaches are wildly overrepresented in coaching relative to their population.
When the data set includes the entire population you have not sampled, by definition.
And my point was that I am NOT assuming racism in this case, specifically.
Saying that a trend is proof about a unique situation is fraught with peril and I know better than to do it.
And my point was if there's only 2 black coaches and 1 of them gets fired it's silly to jump and down and screech racism because 50% got fired which is what the people using the statistics are doing.
But there weren’t two. At one time there were 17 and they were FAR more likely than white coaches to be fired after .500 or better seasons, or having a record of making the playoffs. One was fired after a 10 win season. When does that happen to a white coach?
Yet, again, that does not mean THIS firing was racist.