The gritty kid from Harvard's running the 1k. The way he closes has suggested that he has more in the tank, so all he'll have to do at NCAA's is stick close until 4800m and then go.
The gritty kid from Harvard's running the 1k. The way he closes has suggested that he has more in the tank, so all he'll have to do at NCAA's is stick close until 4800m and then go.
Not talking about BU. Overall. He’s not running the 1k tomorrow.
the description of the youtube video says the time of the workout
"Northern Arizona's Nico Young puts in the work in Flagstaff, Arizona one week prior to his 3:57 mile at altitude and two weeks prior to his 5k run at BU."
His 7:37 3k is better than 13:06 on it's own, and that's not taking into account the massive kick Nico had, nor the fact that everyone thinks he's better at 5k. With perfect pacing at BU, I don't think sub-13 is a stretch for Nico. I'm gonna predict 12:58, just behind Rupp's PB.
What is with Smith’s way of talking? I can’t tell if he has an accent (it’s not a Massachusetts accent) or if it’s just a super affected, faux-casual sort of delivery.
This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem. He had 8 min rest. That's full recovery.
53.9 ---> 8 min rest
5:17 2k ---> 8 min rest
4x400 in his mile pace with 2 minutes rest (most coaches give 60-90 seconds rest for 400s at mile pace
ANOTHER 8 min rest
then a 1:55.
Altitude won't hurt the 400s or the 800s at all, especially with the longer rests. Altitude will actually help the 400 and 800. The only interval that is affected by altitude is the 5:17 2k but that's only a 63 average for someone who is supposed to be a 3:48 miler based on the altitude conversion.
An impressive workout, but there are at least 10 others in the NCAA that can run this exact workout with Nico at sea level (at the faster altitude converted times). Blanks, Robinson, Wolfe, Habtom, Murphy, Houser, Waskom, Bizimana, Matsada, Messaoudi, Essayi just to name 11.
There is no way you think 7000ft altitude helps when running an 800m. Either you are incredibly dumb or a troll
This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem. He had 8 min rest. That's full recovery.
53.9 ---> 8 min rest
5:17 2k ---> 8 min rest
4x400 in his mile pace with 2 minutes rest (most coaches give 60-90 seconds rest for 400s at mile pace
ANOTHER 8 min rest
then a 1:55.
Altitude won't hurt the 400s or the 800s at all, especially with the longer rests. Altitude will actually help the 400 and 800. The only interval that is affected by altitude is the 5:17 2k but that's only a 63 average for someone who is supposed to be a 3:48 miler based on the altitude conversion.
An impressive workout, but there are at least 10 others in the NCAA that can run this exact workout with Nico at sea level (at the faster altitude converted times). Blanks, Robinson, Wolfe, Habtom, Murphy, Houser, Waskom, Bizimana, Matsada, Messaoudi, Essayi just to name 11.
There is no way you think 7000ft altitude helps when running an 800m. Either you are incredibly dumb or a troll
Go look at data
again 1968 Olympic final
Ralph Doubell ran the WR at 7200 feet
in 1968. 800m is neutral at altitude or close, wouldn't ya say. He was not altitude born and raised.
There is no way you think 7000ft altitude helps when running an 800m. Either you are incredibly dumb or a troll
Go look at data
again 1968 Olympic final
Ralph Doubell ran the WR at 7200 feet
in 1968. 800m is neutral at altitude or close, wouldn't ya say. He was not altitude born and raised.
Even better than your sample size of 1 from 1968, go do it yourself. Seriously, go find a track at 7k feet and run a hard 800 after 2 1/2 miles of repeats. You can walk your statements back in between bouts of coughing up your lung. Altitude workouts hit different.
in 1968. 800m is neutral at altitude or close, wouldn't ya say. He was not altitude born and raised.
Even better than your sample size of 1 from 1968, go do it yourself. Seriously, go find a track at 7k feet and run a hard 800 after 2 1/2 miles of repeats. You can walk your statements back in between bouts of coughing up your lung. Altitude workouts hit different.
Ryun trained at altitude for less than one year , spit out a 3:37.x running a foolish race, that was 4+ secs off his best ever. You are wrong. Plus full recoveries+ on the rest for Young.Folks are just too liberal with conversions for acclimated guys, that's all.
Even better than your sample size of 1 from 1968, go do it yourself. Seriously, go find a track at 7k feet and run a hard 800 after 2 1/2 miles of repeats. You can walk your statements back in between bouts of coughing up your lung. Altitude workouts hit different.
Ryun trained at altitude for less than one year , spit out a 3:37.x running a foolish race, that was 4+ secs off his best ever. You are wrong. Plus full recoveries+ on the rest for Young.Folks are just too liberal with conversions for acclimated guys, that's all.
What was foolish about Ryun’s race strategy? If he tried to cover Keino’s early pace, it’s likely he would have fallen out of the medals. 3:37, at 7,000’, was an outstanding effort for him.
in 1968. 800m is neutral at altitude or close, wouldn't ya say. He was not altitude born and raised.
"Data" is not 1 number. That's a datapoint. My high school physics teacher DRILLED into our heads that you need at least 3 datapoints to show a trend, and you need a lot more than 3 to show your trend is accurate. Right now, you have 1 race from before my parents were born.
For my evidence, I'd like to point to any 2 people in this thread who said it's harder to run 800s at altitude, and I'd also like to point out that I now have twice as much "data" as you, and it's far more recent.
Also, this wasn't an 800m race. It was an 800m run at the end of a workout, as a workout. Even if I granted that an 800m race was neutral at altitude, running 2-3 miles hard beforehand surely makes the 800 more aerobic, no? Particularly since he wasn't going all out, so he's already not working as hard anaerobically.
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This workout was NOT as impressive as everyone makes it seem. He had 8 min rest. That's full recovery.
53.9 ---> 8 min rest
5:17 2k ---> 8 min rest
4x400 in his mile pace with 2 minutes rest (most coaches give 60-90 seconds rest for 400s at mile pace
ANOTHER 8 min rest
then a 1:55.
Altitude won't hurt the 400s or the 800s at all, especially with the longer rests. Altitude will actually help the 400 and 800. The only interval that is affected by altitude is the 5:17 2k but that's only a 63 average for someone who is supposed to be a 3:48 miler based on the altitude conversion.
An impressive workout, but there are at least 10 others in the NCAA that can run this exact workout with Nico at sea level (at the faster altitude converted times). Blanks, Robinson, Wolfe, Habtom, Murphy, Houser, Waskom, Bizimana, Matsada, Messaoudi, Essayi just to name 11.
Have you run ANY workout at altitude?
Do you think there's a cumulative breakdown and lactic build-up as he goes deeper into the workout? Or do you think he clears all lactic build-up with each 8 min recovery? I'll help you out with this because I know you have NO clue as to what your talking about. The amount of debt (lactic build-up) accumulates throughout the workout, it doesn't go away with the recovery. The fact you say "it's not as impressive as you think" indicates you've done this type of workout. It's a safe bet that you've NEVER done anything close to this and are simply talking out of your A$$.
FYI-
I have done a similar workout at altitude and it's REALLY hard.
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