But there are many great schools that those students could attend for the same price as NAU. And we started the discussion focused on athletes. Imagine attending NAU instead of Duke at the same price. Check back in 10 years and poll those kids.
Don't act like Smith cares more about his kids than other coaches and he has some unique superpower. He is a good coach. There are many good coaches. There are also a lot of bad coaches - even ones that care about their team.
But there are many great schools that those students could attend for the same price as NAU. And we started the discussion focused on athletes. Imagine attending NAU instead of Duke at the same price. Check back in 10 years and poll those kids.
So you are saying Duke and NAU cost the same?? I'm confused. NAU is not $82k+ especially as a WUE student. Even as a regular out of state student.
NAU
Total estimated cost International $46,928
AZ Resident $29,680
WUE $35,356
Non-Resident
$45,928
DUKE Duke tuition, housing, and fees were as follows in 2022-23: • Duke University tuition: $62,688, 4.1% higher than the previous year • Books and supplies: $1,434, the same as the previous year • Room and board: $16,651, 2.7% less than the previous year • Other fees: $1,976, the same as the previous year • Total expenses: $82,749, 3.6% higher than the previous year
Anyways we digress. Congrats to the athletes and the team for landing some stellar recruits/transfers lately.
Yes a lifetime. If a kid comes out of NAU earning $40K and his peer comes out of UCLA earning $75K, this will impact him for life. Ten years later the NAU kid is at $60K and the UCLA kid is at $125K. The UCLA kid has $200K socked away while the NAU kid has none.
If I go to NAU and make As, then attend UCLA Anderson MBA program, I can make the same $200k starting package that the other grads make.
This. Where you attend school as an undergrad is relatively meaningless in today's workforce. Where you get your advanced degree matters more, but again after you get your first real job it really doesn't matter where you went to school.
I went to a sub-par state school (mostly to run because I had no clue what path to go in school). I got a BS in history, doing nothing with it, then worked retail for a couple years for $30k/year. I then earned a masters, which got me a corporate job. I've jumped jobs 5-6 times over the past 15 years and now earn $150k. So, for all of you throwing averages out there for different schools, everyone's path is different. Yes, schools like UCLA are better than NAU on paper, but throwing out generalized facts as if it applies to everyone is garbage thinking.
Roisin Willis at Stanford. That is the type of athlete we are discussing. She would pay the same at Stanford or NAU. Imagine going to a car dealer and you can pay $20K for a crappy economy car or a Lexus SUV and you choose the crappy economy car.
Roisin Willis at Stanford. That is the type of athlete we are discussing. She would pay the same at Stanford or NAU. Imagine going to a car dealer and you can pay $20K for a crappy economy car or a Lexus SUV and you choose the crappy economy car.
But as a distance runner…
you’re going to get more miles out of the economy car and not have to worry as much if it gets dinged here and there
Lexus SUV’s can be costly and a pain to maintain
geez…you’re just not getting it
I know plenty of people with fancy degrees from prestigious colleges making average salaries
I assume you do. I don't. My coworkers and friends are all high achievers. The data shows that the average grad from highly selective schools earns significantly more over their lifetime. Guess what. If you know some earning regular salaries, that means there are a whole bunch earning very high salaries.
Sounds like you make some great financial decisions. You can have a $100K vehicle for $20K but you don't want it. Any smart person would pay the $20K and sell it for $80K. It is like passing up the free Duke education for an NAU education. Jackson Heidesch will be a wealthy man someday.
I assume you do. I don't. My coworkers and friends are all high achievers. The data shows that the average grad from highly selective schools earns significantly more over their lifetime. Guess what. If you know some earning regular salaries, that means there are a whole bunch earning very high salaries.
You seem high strung and fixated on numbers, earning and material…to each their own
Roisin Willis at Stanford. That is the type of athlete we are discussing. She would pay the same at Stanford or NAU. Imagine going to a car dealer and you can pay $20K for a crappy economy car or a Lexus SUV and you choose the crappy economy car.
Wrong, they are choosing an elite running campus. The elite running campus in the US. Karrie Baloga and Alyson Churchill could go anywhere, they CHOOSe NAU! They did choose the Lexus SUV. Don’t make NAU to be an economy car. See post#17 NAU’s projected lineup and tell me that not a Lexus? Duke is the one who drives economy car.
NAU will always be good. It is cheap. They put their scholarships into distance. It is at elevation. Good coach. And the school sucks so really dumb runners get admitted.
NAU will always be good. It is cheap. They put their scholarships into distance. It is at elevation. Good coach. And the school sucks so really dumb runners get admitted.
as an NAU grad I take offense to this. They also admit dumb non-runners
NAU will always be good. It is cheap. They put their scholarships into distance. It is at elevation. Good coach. And the school sucks so really dumb runners get admitted.
NAU Freshman redshirt phenom Emma Stutzman GPA was 4.11. That’s no dummy. She could get into Stanford or duke without a sub 4:40/sub10:00 times!
Roisin Willis at Stanford. That is the type of athlete we are discussing. She would pay the same at Stanford or NAU. Imagine going to a car dealer and you can pay $20K for a crappy economy car or a Lexus SUV and you choose the crappy economy car.
She didn’t seem to have a positive first year there, so I’m not sure she’s the greatest example.
Why are you so obsessed with NAU? Are you an alumni?
The two new recruits Doesn't change their projected lineup, does it? 1 Elise Stearns 2 Alyson Churchill (from FSU) 3 Ali Upshaw 4 Keira Moore (may be injured so if healthy/fit) 5 Karrie Baloga (from CU) 6&7 Maggie Congdan/Ruby Smee/Emma Stutzman/Maisie Grice.
Confirmed that Keira Moore had a “little injury so redshirted her freshman year”. Because she ran in the vir pre nationals and nutty comb it’s not a redshirt .
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