Did you know there's a pill that supposedly over half the distance medallists used in 2023?

Burrito pills

I have GI issues without taking these pills. I do get plenty of caffeine, though, which may also be part of the GI issues.

I'm not fit enough to take supplements or wear super shoes. A little more consistent training would do a lot more than either of those. If I was running 70+MPW and doing doubles, I'd consider both of them.

Red Bull has both caffeine and sodium bicarbonate. Gwen J and Emma C used it. Much cheaper and less prep.

The point wasn't the six replies, it was the two media links to articles that already reported pretty much everything about the Maurten bicarb product.

I have a question about Bicarb for short sprints. Obviously it won't help in the 100 which is almost entirely alactic or the 200 which is predominantly alactic, but what about the 400, which has a HUGE lactic component? Or the 400 hurdles? Is there a theoretical reason why it wouldn't boost performance in those events?

Idk what the big deal is. It's not a pill. It's a legal supplement that Maurten is pushing with their hydrogel. Try it or don't try it. AMP PR lotion, mentioned in the article, is popular among the triathlon ranks. Know plenty of people using that or some other gels on their legs before races.

Even intravenous sodium bicarbonate does not improve lactic acidosis.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sodium Bicarbonate Therapy in Patients with Metabolic Acidosis

Metabolic acidosis occurs when a relative accumulation of plasma anions in excess of cations reduces plasma pH. Replacement of sodium bicarbonate to patients with sodium bicarbonate loss due to diarrhea or renal proximal tubu...

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The bros and John don’t think they broke some controversial story here I hope.

Exactly. I always have a tube of the Amp gel that I use for longest runs and longest workouts. Simple enough to use. In my experience, it takes a good hour of running to notice any effects, but I do think it helps me extend run with less fatigue in quads. I certainly think it would be helpful for marathons, cycling, and tri.

yes i had a lot of stomach issues taking caffeine before races. not sure if it was just the caffeine on its own or mixing it with other things like electrolyte and gels. but i just stopped taking it and not had any problems since, apart from when i eat too much stodgy food like bread. just stick to basic carbs the 24 hours before, pasta, white rice. it's safer.

I felt nauseated reading such articles and comments from Siegler. I completely agree with Rojo that we should screw these girly little gimmicks like Maurten Bicarb and even coffee, man up a lot, return to mother nature's natural roots in Daniel Komen's bushlands devoid of anthropogenic RF and EMF and train/eat/sleep there and see improvement and results the way God the creator of this earth intended naturally. Do it the REAL MAN'S way! I'm a real man btw, not girly, not cowardice and weak!

You guys really think Daniel Komen and Hicham El Guerrouj took coffee, phosphate pills or even gatorade before their races in the 1990s and early 2000s? Absolutely not! They were absolute MACHOS in true speak, hardened male warriors with moral honor and integrity to boot. If Jakob Ingebrigsten is taking Maurten Bicarb, then I'm so at a loss of respect for this wussy because he already has the advantage of super shoes, wavelights and doped track surfaces?

Shows all of us just how macho a man like Daniel Komen or Hicham El Guerrouj was where they literally strode to the track 'naked' with no pills, no coffee, no supershoes, no doped surfaces, no wavelights, no aerodynamic body suits and still put Jakob and the rest of the modern 2023 athletes to shame?

And then hearing about Jakob estranged from his father Gjert just did it for me! Come to think of it, a real macho man does not diss nor ridicule his father or mother. A real macho man takes the beating of his father in his stride, treats the pain and suffering like it's easy treat! That's called warrior-in-the-making starting in childhood for the boys!

Sorry, like Rojo, I'm a little old school, pardon me, OLD MACHO MAN rather, on top of being an RF King of LRC! Having honor, showing strength (both mental and spiritual/moral resilience) and having integrity are what macho men in my era taught and socialize me to be, I'm sorry but today's modern athletes are all incomprehensibly weak and wussy af!

I'm just right now remembering all the ear rings and tattoos on Jakob as these images come flooding my brain whenever I'm reminded that modern athletes are so girly and wussy they not only adorn their bodies like girlies but also take so many inherently girly (luxurious) advantages and still find them not enough and want some more of the luxurious Maurten Bicarb?

Dear Rojo, you sound like a true macho as well, do you agree with me your RF King?

Do you agree that we need now more than ever in 2023 onwards REAL MEN OF HONOR AND PRIDE like Daniel Komen and Hicham El Guerrouj to do sport and not girls and wussies like Jakob and co?

You know something Rojo, your post and comments here just did it for me! I'm actually just now so in love with you! You have shown yourself to be a true macho, just like me albeit I have an RF propensity in me and is what slightly differentiates me from you!

I bet your dad hit you with a rod or something as a child, just like it happened with me as well, and we both together took it in our stride and tolerated the pain and suffering like true machos in the making! And look how we are both so finely thinking and acting male men today due to all the beating and training from our dads as a children in contrary to all the wussies and half-men on LRC who think we should have been suffering from a hell lot of psychosocial issues and other mental/emotional scars instead?

Compared to you, dear Rojo, Jonathan's tone and pitch in his article about "THE PILL that over half the distance medallists used....." just sounded so friggin wrong af! It sounded so friggin sinister and diabolical and surreptitiously (unconsciously) feeding of the temptation and seduction of actual illegal drugs even if it was a legal pill! You feeling me? It was a clear faux pas for me from Jonathan, just my 2 cents as a top psychoanalyst with RF propensity and history on LRC!

And then the way Siegler talks about the Maurten Bicarb and coffee is just so friggin gross and disgusting. He sounded, like Jonathan, equally sinister and diabolical like the tone of a pimp although he may not actually be selling us whores and hoes per se. As a psychoanalyst, I take guidance from the law of similars which is a law from RF physics and Siegler's tone and pitch, in the context of a rampant doping environment in our sport, sounded unbecoming and lacking in propriety and respect for the very tough job at hand to clean the sport of doping.

It's little wonder, that you, dear Rojo, pushed back very hard on the article by Jonathan and his co-star Siegler! I would have actually jailed the article myself, if not both these 2 unknowingly sinister thinking men!

The right way to do it (train, rest, recover, race and achieve good results) is as Renato Canova says albeit not fully aware and conscious like me your RF King, go to a rural east african region, away and far from as many anthropogenic RF and EMF antennas and units as reasonably possible, eat and drink as many natural organic farmed produce and breathe as many volume of fresh untainted air, pray to God daily on your knees, sell your mobile phone and television, and then train hard and the world records and golds will take care of themselves!

For that reason, I count my friend Renato Canova, like you dear Rojo, also a true macho. Renato, Rojo, me are 3 remaining good men walking the planet as far as LRC is concerned!

Nah, dear Jonathan, I feted as RF King with RF propensity partially disagrees with you in actual actuality. We don't want to find out more about girly Maurten Bicarb stuff. We want to run, race, train, rest, recover like real actual men of war! We men don't want to need such girly comforts because we take after the examples of real macho men like Daniel Komen, Haile Gebrselassie, Paul Tergat, Hicham El Guerrouj who were taking? Well naturally grown teff, corn, milk, tea, rice, vegetables and fruits, and also taking on an unconscious diet naturally free from anthropogenic RF and EMFs and with clean unpolluted air in their various mountain bases. That's all we want from God and that's all it takes.

Instead, dear Jonathan, why don't you write us or find out more for us about how anthropogenic RF and EMF exposures double-blind placebo trialed changes short-term or long-term high-performance physiological output and capacity instead? Why are you finding out more about the term 'supplements' when you know this is a controversial term in sport?

Can someone who has read the article state in one sentence what the pill is supposed to do.

Thanks

Basically helps combat the rise in muscle acidity as intensity increases.

Look, just take spinach, watercress, watermelon and lemonade and you also fight muscle acidity duh!!! Why do you need to take commercial Maurten brand one? They are just trying to rip you off. Goodness me.....

I get that this is just clickbait, but how tf would anyone call those hundreds of bicarbonate pellets a pill?

Thank you kindly.