Wiley is the next Mu - her combined 800/1500 PRs are already faster

None of you know how "little" these athletes train. You aren't following their careers when they are mediocrities. "Undertraining" is merely offered as a later rationale when they show a sudden spike in their performances. It is curious though to see the frequent correlation between "talent" and "undertraining". The mediocre are the ones who seem to train hard.

Agreed on the up and down voting. The manipulation has gone the other way as well. Imo, the whole up and down voting is sorta lame, but whatever. As for post deletions and such, you can thank LRC, they seem to want rules, put statements at top, and then ban people. But, then their conviction seems to last about 30 minutes.

FWIW, there is a conception that there is 1-2 Wiley posters and 1-2 Astro and Astro-adjacents. But, I think it is more like 10-15 Wileys and 20ish "Astros".

^ this

She does have talent but I can't get on board.

The primary reason that I can't root for her is that her performances are too good to be true. Over a 12 second improvement since the beginning of the year in the 1500 and more than a 6 second improvement in the 800. Can someone, anyone, point to a runner that was already at a high level that has had the same improvements? I looked and could not come up with anyone.

Haha! Perfect!

Sure, you have the right to your feelings, but a lot of your post is "factually false". So, you're the one gaslighting. If LRC were consistent, that should earn you a banning.

And I am not simply asking for that level of improvement. I am asking for those improvements in such a short period of time. It really is unheard of.

Oh Damn, you made the exact same point as me several hours earlier. Didn't see your post before I made mine.

The OP could have compared % difference or IAAF Scoring tables, but didn't

Read the report. It's all things that were said in interviews by Nick, Lauren and Victim 1. Not someone's article about it, the report with direct quotes. I'm not sure how it can be "factually" wrong when it came straight from the horses mouth. It's not my interpretation, it's quoting what they said to a LEO.

Sounds like you're a little salty you got banned two days in a row, buddy.

It is Chemusto-esque.

Hey friend, your post is emblematic of the ongoing issue on this topic. You say, as though it is factual and true, that I've been banned two days in a row while the truth is that I have never been banned. If the LRC crew is up for it, I'd like to wager a LIFETIME banning from the forum for our respective towns (yours or mine). If I'm lying and was indeed banned, then my town should be banned. And, if you're blowing smoke (like you are), you and yours can be banned. What do you say? Sound good?

In the same way that you make up stuff about me, you freely do the same with Wiley, which sucks. First, the reports ARE NOT direct quotes. They are summaries by the officer. Beyond that, however, even if we all assume the police officer (like, you know, all police officers) didn't shade anything and got it all perfectly right, you are not remembering it correctly (who knows if on purpose or not).

Again, let me know if you'd like to wager. I'm figuring you won't since you know you're lying.

Adjacent events are used to compare runners. Who is the best sprinter? Who is the best distance runner? Track and Field News is rhe keeper of records and the have one that spans 100 to 400.

trackandfieldnews.com

All-Time Men’s 100/200/400 Combined Scoring - Track & Field News

Sieg Lindstrom

BEING WORLD-CLASS in both the 100 & 200 or both the 200 & 400 is tough enough, but how about... Read More

Link:trackandfieldnews.com/all-time-mens-10...

This is a 10/10 troll. Running related and controversial enough to get 4 pages of replies in under a day.

BTW, if you don't respond, I'll assume you want to move forward with the wager. If you say, nah, let's not, then I'll take that as an apology for lying.

The "debate" about all things Wiley needs to get cleaned up.

Not sure the OP would even know what an IAAF Scoring table is. They used a pull-out of a** table instead.

So if you're really implying that you believe that Wiley is better than Mu, let's combine these times and see where we end up - 400, 600, 800, 1500

You've been fighting the good fight for nearly 24 hours now. You sort of seem like a Wiley insider so maybe you can answer the question that I put forth a few posts up - what other runner, besides Wiley, had such big improvements I such short period of time?

Help us out, here. I can't find anyone. And you trumpeting her accomplishments only is bringing attention to something that is highly irregular.

Hey Nick! Glad you finally admitted you're posting on these threads! Also thanks for the screenshot, buddy. I don't think you know how bans work or internet traffic, for that matter. It's not like a zip code you can just ban lol. But, even if you're stupid bet was possible, I'd take it because I've posted here twice ever.

So you do know that all of your interviews were recorded via audio, video, or both, right? So that officer, who would most likely not want to wager his job by "shading" the report, since there's cold hard evidence.

I'm still not sure how I'm lying... by quoting a report... I can reference pages and paragraphs if I need to. Would you like me to reference the section where Lauren says you're "really good at lying"?

Mu is much better at the 400 than Wiley. I assume that every fan knows that. Wiley is much better at the 1500. I assume that every fan knows that also. Mu is better across the 3 events.