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    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:25am EDT
    re: Not Arrogant

    Not Arrogant wrote:

    He's clearly undiagnosed autistic and just doesn't have the same filter that most people have. He just tells it as he sees it. It was easy for him, he just followed the pacemakers for most of if as he said. It would be the same for all of us (compared to say am unpaved champs race) it's just it's all relative - his best pace happens to be WR pace. I would rather somebody said what they were thinking than minced around with their words.

    He isn't autistic. He is plain old ordinary arrogant.

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    Armstronglivs

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:27am EDT
    re: Magical burrito

    Magical burrito wrote:

    I don't think he is arrogant. Just straightforward and open.

    I don't get why people want athletes with false humility.

    Are they so pathetically envious that they want the athletes to crawl in front of the camera?

    I will say this, that he is very straightforward with his excuses when loses.

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    osm

    Member since 08/07/2013.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:33am EDT
    re: Kanske

    Kanske wrote:

    Veid wrote:

    Lance Armstrong is what this is folks. Same arrogance. Cannot wait for his doping excuse when he is busted.

    Or is it a once in a generation phenom that was raised with two world class brothers, an obsessive father, and trained like a pro since he was 10?

    And you really don't think the obsessive father who's been training him like a pro since he was 10 wasn't trying everything that could possibly give him an edge?

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    Newname

    Member since 12/23/2022.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:41am EDT
    re: mathskillz

    mathskillz wrote:

    only if they went out at approx 4:40 mile pace for the first 200m, which is doubtful

    He came thru the 3k in his 2 mile world best in 7:23.8 per Athletics Weekly. 3k WR is 7:20.67. His final 400m was @ 56 secs. I would guess his opening 400m was @ 59 secs.

    What was his final 3k? Cannot find a definitive stat but had to have been @ 3 secs faster than his opening 3k which would put it at @ 7:21.

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    Antelope111

    Member since 07/19/2022.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:42am EDT
    re: mile next

    mile next wrote:

    rojo wrote:

    You do know his 2 mile WR is superior to the 3k record, right?

    the 2K record is "better" than the mile and 1500k records in

    IAAF Scoring Tables of Athletics 2017.doc

    jacob should go for the mile WR, it's easier by 1.5 seconds ish.

    I don’t know how those tables are calculated but I would think that the more often the event is run, the more reliable the table. The 2000 is rarely run. And if Ingebrigtsen’s optimal distance is 3000, then a mile is moving away from his strength vs a 2000. Thus I am not certain how solid that 1.5 seconds is.

    After losing the 1500 at World Championships, I would think he is going to be more focused on the win than the record. While a fast pace benefits him relative to the field, the question is what pace gives him that advantage over the field while minimizing the risk of going too hard and thus being vulnerable at the end.

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    Newname

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:45am EDT
    re: Antelope111

    Antelope111 wrote:

    mile next wrote:

    the 2K record is "better" than the mile and 1500k records in

    IAAF Scoring Tables of Athletics 2017.doc

    jacob should go for the mile WR, it's easier by 1.5 seconds ish.

    I don’t know how those tables are calculated but I would think that the more often the event is run, the more reliable the table. The 2000 is rarely run. And if Ingebrigtsen’s optimal distance is 3000, then a mile is moving away from his strength vs a 2000. Thus I am not certain how solid that 1.5 seconds is.

    After losing the 1500 at World Championships, I would think he is going to be more focused on the win than the record. While a fast pace benefits him relative to the field, the question is what pace gives him that advantage over the field while minimizing the risk of going too hard and thus being vulnerable at the end.

    I think Jakob would want the WR more than anything. He is in range

  • Millrose

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 09/09/2023 8:52am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    It really looks like Jakob will hold all world records 1500 to marathon if he continues running to age 30-35.

  • arte

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 09/09/2023 10:41am EDT
    re: jakob fan

    Lance Armstrong went way beyond Jakob. Of course Lance was absolutely lionized for this - he was considered to be a winner because he was an ass, not in spite of it.

    Jakob just has the traditional American athlete's I'm-the-best self-regard.

    But as he is not American and as he is an endurance athlete instead of a speed/strength one, his statements make the news.

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    jeff tallon

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 10:58am EDT
    re: osm

    osm wrote:

    Kanske wrote:

    Or is it a once in a generation phenom that was raised with two world class brothers, an obsessive father, and trained like a pro since he was 10?

    And you really don't think the obsessive father who's been training him like a pro since he was 10 wasn't trying everything that could possibly give him an edge?

    Im very surprised hes still running,let alone winning,and breaking records.Still,i think when he finally does get injured,thatll be it.His body will break down earlier than most,even with the fancy shoes.There will be a price to pay,for training as a pro at age 10 onward.

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    marwar

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 11:02am EDT
    re: long distance dedication

    long distance dedication wrote:

    Veid wrote:

    Lance Armstrong is what this is folks. Same arrogance. Cannot wait for his doping excuse when he is busted.

    I've been watching Team Ingebrigtsen, he was like this when he was 10. Not saying doping is out of the question, but this is his personality.

    Doping IS out of the question.

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    coffee cup

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 11:12am EDT
    re: 600yd/600m man

    600yd/600m man wrote:

    T&F has covered up some positive p.e.d. results. Is J Ingebrigtsen making himself, Too Big to Fail with chickensh!t world bests, 2000m & 2mi?

    Were El G and Komen chickensh!t when they set these?

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    jeff tallon

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:01pm EDT
    re: marwar

    marwar wrote:

    long distance dedication wrote:

    I've been watching Team Ingebrigtsen, he was like this when he was 10. Not saying doping is out of the question, but this is his personality.

    Doping IS out of the question.

    Except it isnt.The maniacal obsessive father/coach would have literally sold his soul,to get his sons onto a podium.

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    Armstronglivs

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:07pm EDT
    re: marwar

    marwar wrote:

    long distance dedication wrote:

    I've been watching Team Ingebrigtsen, he was like this when he was 10. Not saying doping is out of the question, but this is his personality.

    Doping IS out of the question.

    You're right. It's a certainty.

  • qqqqq

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:28pm EDT
    re: briguy

    briguy wrote:

    jakob fan wrote:

    Anyone see these post-race comments?

    It´s always fun to break a record. This one qualifies as a world record and not as a world´s best. I know I was able to break this one, but I had some kind of virus ten days ago and I didn´t really know how I would be feeling today. However, I felt really good and ran a good race. To be honest this record wasn´t a difficult one for me. Sure, when you have to do it alone, it´s really tough, but I got great help from the pacemakers. Actually, they were able to help me more than I expected.

    What a beast. The LRC crew had a nice debate on the post-race show about his 5000 WR prospects. Do you think he'd get it if he tried right now?

    I would argue this shows he might of lost some confidence. He laughed at rojos question about pacers a month ago. Said he was the pacer. Now he admits they helped

    Came here to say this. He actually complimented the pacemakers which you would have never seen before.

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    LarsL11

    Member since 05/02/2022.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:29pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    Kanske wrote:

    Or is it a once in a generation phenom that was raised with two world class brothers, an obsessive father, and trained like a pro since he was 10?

    You've just given an alternative description for just another doper.

    Are you on a welfare program or something that requires you to work nonstop by saying "doper" in every thread there is?

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    jeff tallon

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:32pm EDT
    re: LarsL11

    LarsL11 wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    You've just given an alternative description for just another doper.

    Are you on a welfare program or something that requires you to work nonstop by saying "doper" in every thread there is?

    I suppose its easier and quicker than saying performance enhancing drug user.

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    gilt

    Member since 11/21/2015.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:33pm EDT
    re: the brad

    the brad wrote:

    Bad Wigins wrote:

    No, 18 meters is about 3 seconds at that pace, so about 7:21 at best. Good, but not that good.

    Watch the agonized hate spew on the hate-vote machine! Am I wrong? No. The haters know they are wrong, and in agony about it. I merely bring the bad news. I burst the bubble.

    Just face it, people. Jakob can't break 3:26. He can't break 7:20. He can't break 12:35. Ever. Or he would be trying to right now. Even he knows it's out of reach.

    I don't know if he will break 7:20, but on the day of his 7:54.10 he obviously could. His record is superior to Komen's mark.

    Using the 1.08 conversion, the 7:54.1 is equivalent to 7:19.0 for 3000

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    Everydog

    Member since 04/25/2013.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:41pm EDT
    re: former pacemaker

    former pacemaker wrote:

    jakob fan wrote:

    , but I got great help from the pacemakers. Actually, they were able to help me more than I expected.

    so hes not the pacemaker anymore?

    Sounds like he admitted that the comment he made about pacemakers was off-target. What's not good about owning up?

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    BenMan22

    Member since 06/05/2023.

    15 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    2 years ago 09/09/2023 12:56pm EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    Why everybody is speaking about Laros while nobody admits Cheruyiot is superior?

    Yeah Cheruyiot is another beast for sure no question about it and should get his flowers too.

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    2 years ago 09/09/2023 1:08pm EDT
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