Kelvin Kiptum running Chicago Marathon

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  • THOUGHTSLEADER

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 1:02pm EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    Thanks for the answer, so you're sure that the race is set to let Kiptum have his own pacers to run a very fast time, right? It would be great. I thought Chicago was not the right choice for him because they don't provide pacers or pacers that run a pace that fits guys like Rupp etc etc

    Well, it's certainly in their interest to try to get a strong course record at the very least. Behind that NRs/ARs for someone like Mantz is a huge draw as well (hence a second pacer). Chicago rarely has a field this good/deep, I think securing good pacers follows after you draw in the field with approachable targets. Chicago is only really riskier to me because of the weather. If conditions are good, Kiptum will be ready to blast one.

  • Some insight for all to digest

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 07/26/2023 1:03pm EDT
    re: THOUGHTSLEADER

    Thank you Thoughtsleader. You are accurate.

    Perhaps I could have been more clear when I said ‘the above athlete’ I was referring to a several times Chicago pacer who is an ASICS athlete. Obviously not Kiptum.

    Yes, Kiptum’s group will bring in and/or approve his pacers. And in my opinion Chicago should bring in two more sets of pacers to run 2:03:40 and 2:06:30, but that remains to be seen.

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 1:17pm EDT
    re: Some insight for all to digest

    Some insight for all to digest wrote:

    Thank you Thoughtsleader. You are accurate.

    Perhaps I could have been more clear when I said ‘the above athlete’ I was referring to a several times Chicago pacer who is an ASICS athlete. Obviously not Kiptum.

    Yes, Kiptum’s group will bring in and/or approve his pacers. And in my opinion Chicago should bring in two more sets of pacers to run 2:03:40 and 2:06:30, but that remains to be seen.

    So the only certain fact is that Kiptum will bring his own personal pacers to run 2h01', right? You know for sure that his group is giving him pacers and Chicago organizers are allowing that too, right? I ask you that because sometimes it is hard for me to get 100% english articulated sentences.

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 2:32pm EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    Some insight for all to digest wrote:

    Thank you Thoughtsleader. You are accurate.

    Perhaps I could have been more clear when I said ‘the above athlete’ I was referring to a several times Chicago pacer who is an ASICS athlete. Obviously not Kiptum.

    Yes, Kiptum’s group will bring in and/or approve his pacers. And in my opinion Chicago should bring in two more sets of pacers to run 2:03:40 and 2:06:30, but that remains to be seen.

    So the only certain fact is that Kiptum will bring his own personal pacers to run 2h01', right? You know for sure that his group is giving him pacers and Chicago organizers are allowing that too, right? I ask you that because sometimes it is hard for me to get 100% english articulated sentences.

    And i couldn't understand if those things you said are informations that some insider reported to you or if they're your personal opinions actually. Could you clarify that please? Thank you in advance

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    Kokinho

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 2:35pm EDT
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    so dumb wrote:

    Thanks. I recall they didn't have them for a few years but it's good they brought them back. Also didn't think about the $ aspect

    That's correct but Galen Rupp cheated and brought his own pacer, Emmanuel Bett, to help him win.

  • Maxcrux

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 2:49pm EDT
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    In my opinion, anything can happen in Chicago but it all depends on the weather on the day.If the weather is really good then even a world record is possible. Kiptum is the real deal.Offcourse he is still quite new in the marathon world but if conditions are good and he is in top shape then I believe he could break the WR in Chicago I.e if it remains as it is in Berlin.

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 4:05pm EDT
    re: Maxcrux

    Maxcrux wrote:

    In my opinion, anything can happen in Chicago but it all depends on the weather on the day.If the weather is really good then even a world record is possible. Kiptum is the real deal.Offcourse he is still quite new in the marathon world but if conditions are good and he is in top shape then I believe he could break the WR in Chicago I.e if it remains as it is in Berlin.

    The weather can be terrible there. In October there are 7 rainy days on average and you can have strong wind too...The fact that Kiptum choses Chicago may mean that he doesn't care about records or running fast this fall but that choice may have been only a financial one.

  • THOUGHTSLEADER

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 4:08pm EDT
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    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    The weather can be terrible there. In October there are 7 rainy days on average and you can have strong wind too...The fact that Kiptum choses Chicago may mean that he doesn't care about records or running fast this fall but that choice may have been only a financial one.

    That just seems extreme. It more likely was the best appearance fee offer and the weather risk is one he’s willing to take given he can take a crack at the World Record in London next year.

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 4:14pm EDT
    re: THOUGHTSLEADER

    THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    The weather can be terrible there. In October there are 7 rainy days on average and you can have strong wind too...The fact that Kiptum choses Chicago may mean that he doesn't care about records or running fast this fall but that choice may have been only a financial one.

    That just seems extreme. It more likely was the best appearance fee offer and the weather risk is one he’s willing to take given he can take a crack at the World Record in London next year.

    Do you think he is returning to London next year? If yes, why you suppose London?

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  • Some insight for all to digest

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 07/26/2023 8:51pm EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Facts, as I was involved in negotiations for one of my athletes.

  • THOUGHTSLEADER

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 10:42pm EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

    That just seems extreme. It more likely was the best appearance fee offer and the weather risk is one he’s willing to take given he can take a crack at the World Record in London next year.

    Do you think he is returning to London next year? If yes, why you suppose London?

    London pays the most. If he sets the record in Chicago it opens the door for Boston. I guess Tokyo is plausible too.

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    Utah Girl Chronicles

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 11:02pm EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    A few of my running mates at the Riis Park Striders are usually in fine shape that time of year and they promise they will escort Kiptum to the 13.1M point in 60:15 and then see if he can negative split.

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/26/2023 11:15pm EDT
    re: Some insight for all to digest

    Some insight for all to digest wrote:

    Facts, as I was involved in negotiations for one of my athletes.

    So do you think they're really providing him pacers that pace the first half at 60'25"?

    First half of London marathon 2023 was paced at 61'40" and First half of Valencia Marathon 2022 was 61'38".

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/27/2023 11:10am EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    Some insight for all to digest wrote:

    Facts, as I was involved in negotiations for one of my athletes.

    So do you think they're really providing him pacers that pace the first half at 60'25"?

    First half of London marathon 2023 was paced at 61'40" and First half of Valencia Marathon 2022 was 61'38".

    And when do you think that we will know who the pacers are? Will the pacers list comes out many days before the race?

  • Aint no gentleman jim

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    2 years ago 07/27/2023 11:18am EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    So do you think they're really providing him pacers that pace the first half at 60'25"?

    First half of London marathon 2023 was paced at 61'40" and First half of Valencia Marathon 2022 was 61'38".

    And when do you think that we will know who the pacers are? Will the pacers list comes out many days before the race?

    The sooner you go to sleep the sooner you’ll wake up on the morning of October 8th!

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/27/2023 2:23pm EDT
    re: Aint no gentleman jim

    Aint no gentleman jim wrote:

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    And when do you think that we will know who the pacers are? Will the pacers list comes out many days before the race?

    The sooner you go to sleep the sooner you’ll wake up on the morning of October 8th!

    Just serious answers, please

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/28/2023 10:15am EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    Some insight for all to digest wrote:

    Facts, as I was involved in negotiations for one of my athletes.

    So do you think they're really providing him pacers that pace the first half at 60'25"?

    First half of London marathon 2023 was paced at 61'40" and First half of Valencia Marathon 2022 was 61'38".

    can you please answer to this? Did you mean that is it sure that he will have people pacing him 60'25" for the first half?
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  • bekele boi

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    2 years ago 07/28/2023 10:22am EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Kiptum is going to put the 'fastest marathon on American soil' record forever out of reach of an actual American. Sad!

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    Nick Kipleri

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    2 years ago 07/28/2023 10:30am EDT
    re: bekele boi

    bekele boi wrote:

    Kiptum is going to put the 'fastest marathon on American soil' record forever out of reach of an actual American. Sad!

    If they don't provide him pacers and if it will be a windy and/or rainy day he is going to run 2h5' or even slower actually. And in the race there will be also some fearsome competitors.

  • THOUGHTSLEADER

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    2 years ago 07/28/2023 10:59am EDT
    re: Nick Kipleri

    Nick Kipleri wrote:

    So do you think they're really providing him pacers that pace the first half at 60'25"?

    First half of London marathon 2023 was paced at 61'40" and First half of Valencia Marathon 2022 was 61'38".

    This won't be announced for weeks if at all. 60:25 is unlikely even if he's chasing after the record. Expect 61:00 or 61:15 instead — I'm just using common sense.

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