Other than the misspelling, on paper these are good tips for a runner.
It really just underscores how unpopular he is. This was not a terrible post by any means, but he was eviscerated for his spelling mistake because people do not like him.
Poor kids at this place. They will barely have the talent to run at D1 and they will be the lab rats and listen to this guy’s mealy mouthed, pseudo science explanations about the training based on some 1940s obscure training journal. Let’s see how he develops runners, but does he have the maturity to run a program, even if this size?
Poor kids at this place. They will barely have the talent to run at D1 and they will be the lab rats and listen to this guy’s mealy mouthed, pseudo science explanations about the training based on some 1940s obscure training journal. Let’s see how he develops runners, but does he have the maturity to run a program, even if this size?
We already know how he develops runners. He's had opportunities before and done nothing with them. He is the "the430miler" of the West Coast. In cross, PSU was fighting for last every year when he was coaching them in his previous stint.
Poor kids at this place. They will barely have the talent to run at D1 and they will be the lab rats and listen to this guy’s mealy mouthed, pseudo science explanations about the training based on some 1940s obscure training journal. Let’s see how he develops runners, but does he have the maturity to run a program, even if this size?
from what I can tell his coaching philosophy isn’t much different from the norm. he just likes to explain it in a long winded, roundabout way while misusing analogies and quotes from old texts (not necessarily running related).
at its core though the concepts are the same basic things people have been doing for years. all he’s doing is making them more difficult to understand then attempting to take credit for it in the confusion.
Poor kids at this place. They will barely have the talent to run at D1 and they will be the lab rats and listen to this guy’s mealy mouthed, pseudo science explanations about the training based on some 1940s obscure training journal. Let’s see how he develops runners, but does he have the maturity to run a program, even if this size?
from what I can tell his coaching philosophy isn’t much different from the norm. he just likes to explain it in a long winded, roundabout way while misusing analogies and quotes from old texts (not necessarily running related).
at its core though the concepts are the same basic things people have been doing for years. all he’s doing is making them more difficult to understand then attempting to take credit for it in the confusion.
LOL yes, I would listen to the podcast and digest whatever workout they were pitching, discussing whatever... and eventually I'd think to myself "Wait a minute, this is just (insert stuff runners have done for years) with a new name and some scientific terms tossed around to make it sound fancy."
I've got nothing against Marcus (though the Nuguse stuff was inane) and wish him the best, but man he was terrible on the podcasts he used to do with Steve Magness. Poor guy babbled endlessly and had a difficult time stringing together a cogent point. Reminds me A LOT of Rojo on his podcasts. Rojo has something to say, but is incapable of saying it without listeners' ears bleeding from the verbal diarrhea. Not everyone is meant to do podcasts, that's for sure.
Um, he still does the same podcast roughly weekly.
I've got nothing against Marcus (though the Nuguse stuff was inane) and wish him the best, but man he was terrible on the podcasts he used to do with Steve Magness. Poor guy babbled endlessly and had a difficult time stringing together a cogent point. Reminds me A LOT of Rojo on his podcasts. Rojo has something to say, but is incapable of saying it without listeners' ears bleeding from the verbal diarrhea. Not everyone is meant to do podcasts, that's for sure.
Um, he still does the same podcast roughly weekly.
Um, he still does the same podcast roughly weekly.
Pay attention.
And it's still awful.
In what way? Asking genuinely here.
I have been a runner, a coach, a fan, and a complete nerd for the sport for 20 years, and I truly think "Magness & Marcus on Coaching" is one of the best running podcasts out there.
Love to learn about elite and sub-elite training, and I dig deeper to research and apply ideas from the show all the time. (They had a deep dive on Norwegian training long before it blew up on the LetsRun boards, for example.)
I'm truly a nobody, just a locally fast master and a small-time coach. (Not an elite runner and successful podcaster like most posters here - ha.) I think it's a great show and wonder if people talking trash are jealous they've never made a mark.
what is the deal with all the posters hating on college coaches? Maybe for sprints, hurdles, jumps. But a distance coach is a figurehead. All but maybe the very top few of them.
All the really top athletes know what they are doing. The only role of the coach is to offer another perspective than the runner's own. It can even be someone who never ran, like Brother Colm.
They just have to stand there and say "stop, go, relax, looking good" etc etc. And recruit a team, maybe.
You'll notice he used the word "SOAD" instead of "SODA" and was dragged for it.
Deadly daily habits: - Drinking Alcohol, any amount - Sleeping less than 6 hrs/night - Sitting for 3+ hrs/day - Drinking Soad, any amount - Not eating 1g protein: 1lb BW - Not eating 5+ servings veggies - Not brushing/flossing teeth - Smoking, any amount - Not Strength Training — Jonathan J. Marcus (@jmarpdx)October 19, 2021 Tweet:...
what is the deal with all the posters hating on college coaches? Maybe for sprints, hurdles, jumps. But a distance coach is a figurehead. All but maybe the very top few of them.
All the really top athletes know what they are doing. The only role of the coach is to offer another perspective than the runner's own. It can even be someone who never ran, like Brother Colm.
They just have to stand there and say "stop, go, relax, looking good" etc etc. And recruit a team, maybe.
Because the people who consistently post negative things on here are the ultimate running fan nerds, who are know-it-all’s, extremely petty, and make the constant error of confusing opinion with facts (that they don’t and never will know). The type who gets mad when someone describes how a race played but in a slightly wrong way, if someone names the wrong person when naming the 1996 5k Olympic medalists (no point in mentioning which gender anymore because gender is offensive), the type who tries to cancel someone for criticizing or giving a controversial opinion about their favorite athlete that they wish they could be when they visualize a fantasy during their training runs or core routines.
Gotta seriously wonder what percentage of these miserable virgins have actually raced in a NCAA XC championship, fist bumped a NCAA champion before or after a race (using these as examples to illustrate they have not competed at a high level, nor on a high level team that, there is always some conflict with the coach- because you know, athletes and their egos).
Because the people who consistently post negative things on here are the ultimate running fan nerds, who are know-it-all’s, extremely petty, and make the constant error of confusing opinion with facts (that they don’t and never will know).
You basically just described Marcus and the outcry over his hiring. He is the epitome of all this. He did the most letsrun thing and accused our current 1500m champ of doping without evidence. It’s like the letsrun board took the form of a person and was just hired to coach at Portland State.
Did you sniff their jock as well? What do your examples have anything to do with having an opinion on how apt for mocking and criticism Magness and Marcus are? They say practically nothing each episode. Navel gazing vagueness. They are the personification of the era we find ourselves in where influencer coaches feel the need to post the books they’ve read about Silicon Valley, leadership, the brain, habits, Dale Carnegie?!, etc. to earn their bonafides as “intellectuals”. Keep pretending that D1 experience is the be all and end all to make yourself feel better like a lemming of the sport culture in this country, believing that investing tens of thousands of dollars so that a kid could have a signing ceremony with a poor excuse of a learning institution, for books, but can claim they went D1 and end up being a personal trainer with their qualification as a “D1 athlete”.
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