WR is 1:53.2 by a woman who was sub 48 (1983). Very much ch faster than 51.
The only other sub 1:54 woman is a 1:53.4 with PB of 50.9 and 3:59.4 (1980)
Pamela Jelimo, who is 3rd all time, just below the people your mentioned with a PB of 1:54.01, only ran 52.14 and 52.78, and the 52.78 was in her prime. I think the huge variation is correct. Here is the ful list of people sub 1:55.5 who have a 400 PB in world athletics
Kratochvilova, 1:53.28, 47.99
Olizarenko 1:53.43, 50.96
Jelimo, 1:54.01, 52.14
Semenya, 1:54.25, 49.62
Quirot, 1:54.44, 49.61
Mineyeva 1:54.81, 50.78
Mu, 1:55.04, 49.57
Mutola, 1:55.19, 51.37
Ceplak, 1:55.19, 54.31
Wodars, 1:55.26, 51.95
Wachtel 1:55.32, 51.62
Niyonsaba 1:55.47, 53.48
Everyone on that list will be a doper or DSD-male. Or both.
Four-hundred meter performances have a stronger correlation to 800m performance than 1500m performances but that does not mean 400m to 800m is strongly correlated.
Pace differential for elite 400m/800m athletes is roughly equal to pace differential for elite 3000m to 1/2 Marathon athletes.
With 3000m, we cannot say: If athlete A runs 3000m in xx:xx.xx then 1/2 Marathon in time x:xx:xx.xx. Same for 400m to 800m.
Complete nonsense.
Of course if you just take a second off your 400m time that does not automatically knock 2 seconds off your 800m. However, if you manage to either maintain the work which got you did when running your 800m pb or improve on it as in a developing young athlete like Keely then your 800m time should come down.
In my 800m pb I went through 400m in my pb time from a 400m race 2 years before. Obviously my 400m time had come down. I had been doing a lot of circuit training and it had improved my speed without realising it. Despite going through too fast I still pb'd
The problem Keely has is that Mu is still faster over 400m. Normally you would look to beat them on endurance. Mu has just run 4:01 so that is not happening.
The chance that Keel has is that Mu barely races and does not like travelling away from America. There must be a reason for that.
Four-hundred meter performances have a stronger correlation to 800m performance than 1500m performances but that does not mean 400m to 800m is strongly correlated.
Pace differential for elite 400m/800m athletes is roughly equal to pace differential for elite 3000m to 1/2 Marathon athletes.
With 3000m, we cannot say: If athlete A runs 3000m in xx:xx.xx then 1/2 Marathon in time x:xx:xx.xx. Same for 400m to 800m.
Complete nonsense.
Of course if you just take a second off your 400m time that does not automatically knock 2 seconds off your 800m. However, if you manage to either maintain the work which got you did when running your 800m pb or improve on it as in a developing young athlete like Keely then your 800m time should come down.
In my 800m pb I went through 400m in my pb time from a 400m race 2 years before. Obviously my 400m time had come down. I had been doing a lot of circuit training and it had improved my speed without realising it. Despite going through too fast I still pb'd
The problem Keely has is that Mu is still faster over 400m. Normally you would look to beat them on endurance. Mu has just run 4:01 so that is not happening.
The chance that Keel has is that Mu barely races and does not like travelling away from America. There must be a reason for that.
Mu ran 4:03.44 and was out-kicked by Nikki Hiltz. Hodgkinson's path to victory is through speed endurance. She needs that first lap to go through in 57-mid, then it's a fight and comes down to fine margins as it did in Eugene. That sort of pace negates the advantages that Mu and Moraa have in pure 400 speed
Of course if you just take a second off your 400m time that does not automatically knock 2 seconds off your 800m. However, if you manage to either maintain the work which got you did when running your 800m pb or improve on it as in a developing young athlete like Keely then your 800m time should come down.
In my 800m pb I went through 400m in my pb time from a 400m race 2 years before. Obviously my 400m time had come down. I had been doing a lot of circuit training and it had improved my speed without realising it. Despite going through too fast I still pb'd
The problem Keely has is that Mu is still faster over 400m. Normally you would look to beat them on endurance. Mu has just run 4:01 so that is not happening.
The chance that Keel has is that Mu barely races and does not like travelling away from America. There must be a reason for that.
Mu ran 4:03.44 and was out-kicked by Nikki Hiltz. Hodgkinson's path to victory is through speed endurance. She needs that first lap to go through in 57-mid, then it's a fight and comes down to fine margins as it did in Eugene. That sort of pace negates the advantages that Mu and Moraa have in pure 400 speed
Can we just admit the obvious here? Hodgkinson is a generational talent..for a European. Mu is simply a generational talent. She won’t beat her unless Mu is incredibly ‘off’ for one reason or another.
As for Moraa - requesting a world athletics (monitored not by Kenyans) DSD test please…her running mechanics are exactly like a blokes and don’t resemble Mu or any other females at all.
Mu ran 4:03.44 and was out-kicked by Nikki Hiltz. Hodgkinson's path to victory is through speed endurance. She needs that first lap to go through in 57-mid, then it's a fight and comes down to fine margins as it did in Eugene. That sort of pace negates the advantages that Mu and Moraa have in pure 400 speed
Can we just admit the obvious here? Hodgkinson is a generational talent..for a European. Mu is simply a generational talent. She won’t beat her unless Mu is incredibly ‘off’ for one reason or another.
As for Moraa - requesting a world athletics (monitored not by Kenyans) DSD test please…her running mechanics are exactly like a blokes and don’t resemble Mu or any other females at all.
Moraa has been subjected to far more wada testing at DLs than Mu who never even shows up. Moraa is not the one who appears to be dodging scrutiny outside her national federation.
Actually you spew hatred here incessantly and you would even in a a world devoid of PEDs.
Hatred is an exaggeration. Let's say I simply despise the morans and bigots that frequently populate these threads. It is contempt that is well-deserved.
Can we just admit the obvious here? Hodgkinson is a generational talent..for a European. Mu is simply a generational talent. She won’t beat her unless Mu is incredibly ‘off’ for one reason or another.
As for Moraa - requesting a world athletics (monitored not by Kenyans) DSD test please…her running mechanics are exactly like a blokes and don’t resemble Mu or any other females at all.
Moraa has been subjected to far more wada testing at DLs than Mu who never even shows up. Moraa is not the one who appears to be dodging scrutiny outside her national federation.
You are truly clueless that you think a clean runner could beat a doped record that has stood for decades. She's miles from that time.
You're delusional thinking she isn't great. Maybe go pay your parent's basement instead of hating on people who hold more purpose than your miserable moronic life.
You are truly clueless that you think a clean runner could beat a doped record that has stood for decades. She's miles from that time.
You're delusional thinking she isn't great. Maybe go pay your parent's basement instead of hating on people who hold more purpose than your miserable moronic life.
She is great. I have never denied it. But if you think she is clean she is never going to run 1:52. In that, you are clueless.
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