RYAN CROUSER SHATTERS WORLD RECORD in SHOT PUT !!!!!!!

Armstronglivs wrote:

Captain Geetch wrote:

You're right.

I should completely disregard my instincts, my 40+ years of knowledge & experience in the sport, my intimate knowledge of the event itself and the history of the athlete, living through the "doper days", seeing virtually every one of the throws records set back then not even get SNIFFED at for the past 30 years and knowing precisely why that was, and the indisputable fact that Ryan Crouser has a perfectly clean drug testing record.....and listen to you.

What was I thinking? 🙄😏

Alternatively you could inform yourself about the decades of doping in the sport, most of which goes undetected, and ask yourself how an athlete today obliterates the best dopers in the history of this very doped sport. The one thing you can be sure of is that if he is doping the chances of him being caught are exceedingly slim. So for the records, medals, fame and money, why wouldn't he dope?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Captain Geetch wrote:

You're right.

I should completely disregard my instincts, my 40+ years of knowledge & experience in the sport, my intimate knowledge of the event itself and the history of the athlete, living through the "doper days", seeing virtually every one of the throws records set back then not even get SNIFFED at for the past 30 years and knowing precisely why that was, and the indisputable fact that Ryan Crouser has a perfectly clean drug testing record.....and listen to you.

What was I thinking? 🙄😏

Alternatively you could inform yourself about the decades of doping in the sport, most of which goes undetected, and ask yourself how an athlete today obliterates the best dopers in the history of this very doped sport. The one thing you can be sure of is that if he is doping the chances of him being caught are exceedingly slim. So for the records, medals, fame and money, why wouldn't he dope?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Captain Geetch wrote:

You're right.

I should completely disregard my instincts, my 40+ years of knowledge & experience in the sport, my intimate knowledge of the event itself and the history of the athlete, living through the "doper days", seeing virtually every one of the throws records set back then not even get SNIFFED at for the past 30 years and knowing precisely why that was, and the indisputable fact that Ryan Crouser has a perfectly clean drug testing record.....and listen to you.

What was I thinking? 🙄😏

Alternatively you could inform yourself about the decades of doping in the sport, most of which goes undetected, and ask yourself how an athlete today obliterates the best dopers in the history of this very doped sport. The one thing you can be sure of is that if he is doping the chances of him being caught are exceedingly slim. So for the records, medals, fame and money, why wouldn't he dope?

Chris lewis wrote:

automorphic wrote:

I'll go the opposite way. I'm not saying NFL players aren't incredible athletes; they certainly are, and the strength and explosiveness of lineman is unbelievable. Not to mention their technique, which takes years to perfect.

But as pure athletic specimens, I'd take Crouser every day. Some posters here are seriously underestimating what it takes to put 20 meters, never mind 23. I don't think there's an athlete in the world who has his combination of strength, athleticism, and explosiveness. This doesn't mean that Crouser would be the best NFL lineman (although I DO think he could make the transition to a successful one). But in sprinting it's well recognized that NFL players may be fast, but real actual sprinters are quite a bit faster. I think the same is true for pure explosiveness: if you want the most explosive athlete, look at the most explosive sport/event, which is shotput far more than the NFL.

There's this weird inferiority complex in track where a lot of people feel that track athletes are the dregs of the athletic world, that somehow all the "real" athletes find themselves in other sports. This despite the fact that it is the #1 or #2 global participation sport, and that a huge number of talented athletes pour their heart and soul into it despite the often-meager rewards. Crouser is self-evidently one of those people, as is clear from his interviews and the way he treats the sport.

Also, note that there's no NFL-equivalent in most other countries. Rugby requires a lot more endurance and wouldn't be a good fit for the really big guys. So if the best potential shotputters all go to the NFL, why are Americans anywhere near the top in the event if they're competing with other countries' best?

Again, NFL players are incredible athletes, and no one else could do what they do. The overall level of competition in the sprints and throws in the US would hugely go up if they all switched sports, which is remarkable since they're predisposed towards a different sport. But when we're talking about someone the level of Crouser, then nah, there's no one who can do what he does.

No doubt Crouser is an incredible athlete, and someone with the height and strength to make himself so great.

But there would be a lot of potential great shot putters that focused on American football and the NFL.

fortunately Crouser focused on shot put, and the NFL players we will never know.