Runner's World publishes yet another piece on Wetmore and seems upset that he hasn't been fired yet

Fargo wrote:

Running is Hardz wrote:

If you are on a team in college you can quit or transfer at literally any time.

I don’t know how much experience you have with DI/P5 athletic departments but there is A TON of oversight.

Athletic Directors, SWA, compliance, Student Athlete Advisory Committee, conference reps, athletic training. The NCAA. Everything is tracked. When you can talk to athletes when you can’t, practice hours, days off, voluntary vs mandatory.

Here is a question, if an athlete wants to get better can you ever discuss changing body composition or nutrition with them or is that 100% off limits?

If it is, would them having a conversation with a licensed professional be acceptable or is that also 100% off limits?

Well put.

Nowadays, in our blame culture, everyone is an abuser. My parents were great life coaches who forced me to study, not eat too much or junk food, clean out my room and take out the garbage. The fact that they showed me love is overshadowed by the aforementioned abuse. I need to sue them and disgrace them now that they are old/dead.

Just wondering...Who is the world body that adjudicates the grey line between motivation and abuse? Also, have they set timeless rules for this or are the rules allowed to change with this month's latest wokeism to erase historical figures and practices as 100% evil and replace them with new people (critics) with situational ethics and zero accomplishments other than selfies?

I am just shocked at how people on this board attack attack attack just to blame someone, for any reason, just to destroy people. Endless critics, few producers. Pathetic.

Fargo wrote:

Running is Hardz wrote:

If you are on a team in college you can quit or transfer at literally any time.

I don’t know how much experience you have with DI/P5 athletic departments but there is A TON of oversight.

Athletic Directors, SWA, compliance, Student Athlete Advisory Committee, conference reps, athletic training. The NCAA. Everything is tracked. When you can talk to athletes when you can’t, practice hours, days off, voluntary vs mandatory.

Here is a question, if an athlete wants to get better can you ever discuss changing body composition or nutrition with them or is that 100% off limits?

If it is, would them having a conversation with a licensed professional be acceptable or is that also 100% off limits?

Well put.

Nowadays, in our blame culture, everyone is an abuser. My parents were great life coaches who forced me to study, not eat too much or junk food, clean out my room and take out the garbage. The fact that they showed me love is overshadowed by the aforementioned abuse. I need to sue them and disgrace them now that they are old/dead.

Just wondering...Who is the world body that adjudicates the grey line between motivation and abuse? Also, have they set timeless rules for this or are the rules allowed to change with this month's latest wokeism to erase historical figures and practices as 100% evil and replace them with new people (critics) with situational ethics and zero accomplishments other than selfies?

I am just shocked at how people on this board attack attack attack just to blame someone, for any reason, just to destroy people. Endless critics, few producers. Pathetic.

former d1 coach wrote:

Link:www.runnersworld.com/news/a43894910/un...

The piece includes this:

Wetmore’s current three-year contract expires on June 30, 2024. It includes a clause that he can be terminated for cause for, among other reasons, conduct or coaching practices contrary to “recognized conduct and techniques” and that “in the determination of the athletics director, endangers, or could endanger, student athlete health, safety, or welfare.” Wetmore makes $160,000 yearly, with additional performance-based bonuses.

This isn't that complicated really.

1) There are lots of eating disorders in any and all sports where weight is important- football, wrestling, and yes track. There are probably more eating disorders than average at CU as Wetmore refuses to not act like weight is an issue.

2) The way Wetmore deals with weight is probably not how you should deal with it in the year 2023.

3) This isn't a fireable offense. Because he used a caliper 20+ years ago, you want him fired?

4) If I was the AD, I'd issue a statement and say, "Coach Wetmore is one of the greatest coaches in CU history but everyone can get better. This year we will fly in ** a top nutritionist to educate the coaching staff and training staff on the top practices. Moving forward, the training staff will handle all weight related issues. We're sorry not everyone loved their time on the team."

5) My prediction is the Colorado won't do any of this. They'll either fire him or wimp out and not renew Wetmore's contract next year when he's 70. I imagine they were getting ready to can him and then the support from all the Olympians surprised them them.

Frank Potts wrote:

mr38 wrote:

Can we quit it with the "both sides" BS? They're taking a side merely by writing the story.

The side being expectations of integrity from the CU AD. Which is probably silly given how desperately they're chasing football relevance with a guy who habitually wears sunglasses indoors. It's certainly questionable to announce that you're investigating a program with that high of a profile and then take so long to announce the findings. The public and the media have a right to expect the other shoe to drop. I don't have any hope or expectation regarding Wetmore's and Burroughs's continued employment at CU, just get on with it already. At least for program's sake, if nothing else, since every rival program can use the investigation and still pending report as negative recruiting tools. The reasonable conclusion is that it's taking this long because there are lawyers involved in squaring away whatever action could result to CYA.

TheSinkSucks wrote:

I went to CU. I can relate to Carrie Verdon's experience in the article. My experience isn't weight related, however if you're not performing to the coaches expectations support seems to become non-existent. They really drop you like a bad habit and make you feel it's your fault and therefore you're problem (remember you're 18 at the time you go to college). OR they push you off on the trainer who really doesn't have much to stand on either. When do coaches take responsibility for the athletes poor performances if they're doing everything right (sleep, nutrition, recovery, training)? As a coach, I understand you aren't going to work for everyone but you do have a responsibility to support and help struggling athletes YOU heavily recruited to the University. If you provide the help necessary and all else fails then okay but you don't just kick them to the curb and treat them indifferent. Oh and yes 80% of the women had eating disorders and so did some of the men. It was the TEAM culture. The bragging about how low your body fat was after the scans by seniors was gross. Grow up!