P.S. However, maybe she gets lucky, and her worst values were from October 2022, and her ban starts then. Then she'd get to keep her title.
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olyrun3 wrote:
Jeruto is only provisionally suspended for a blood passport discrepancy from 2020. Her values were good in'21 and '22. There is no indication that she was doping during the '22 World Champs. The process needs come to it's completion. It's not helpful that some US women runners find it necessary to celebrate Jurotos's provisional suspension before all the facts are out.
It does feel like a lot of US female athletes are jumping on this a little early. It doesn't seem straightforward with the timings. It's still very suspect but after the Peter Bol clusterf**k, I'm not closing the book on this one until the ban is confirmed.
Also have to say that anyone from the LRC staff trying to take the high ground on this is laughable after their stance on Houlihan. Integrity? Nah.
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Why are you bringing Shelby into this? We already have 100 threads about Shelby. This thread is about Jeruto. As for Jeruto, here is what I have to say:
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Funny that questionable tests that show RBC dissimilarities over the years was grounds for a potential ban but undisputed positive testing for a Y chromosome wasn't.
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Good riddance! Her situation is similar to Ruth Jebet's. Plastic citizenship for (insert oil-rich country) and the added pressure to perform and repay the investment. Why did it take this long? She should not have been allowed at worlds.
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Ndndns wrote:
Jonathan Gault wrote:
If you're doping and want to get away with it, I wouldn't recommend running 9:01 in a steeple prelim. Reminds me of when Ramzi ran 3:32 in the first round in Beijing in 2008. You are just inviting more scrutiny when you make it look that easy.
Miss Emma Coburn throwing up some sassy Instagram story posts about jeruto too, while still continuing to show support for Shelby. So easy for Emma and gault to call dopers dopers when they are African, but it’s still a tragedy to you when it happens to a white American. Here’s a suggestion, don’t run 14:23 on an empty track if you don’t want to invite scrutiny either
Emma Coburn should seat her salty self down and let anti-doping do their job. She's not, as she implies, the standard for clean steeple excellence.
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chen wrote:
Kerley also ran a crazy 9.7 in the first round of 100m, intentionally. Maybe that's not a good indicator?.
Sprints are different. You can't not go all-out in a sprint and make the final, while in a distance event you don't usually go full bore until the final.
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ABP bans are a lot harder to prove than person X testing positive for Y drug. Need a lot of data and one deviation alone can't prove everything.
If I had to guess, there was the deviating sample from 2020 but the AIU wanted a greater body of evidence at varying conditions to make sure their argument is water tight. The more "normal" tests unfer comparable conditions that they have logged the stronger the argument that the sample taken is actually only explicable by doping.
Eg say they tested her two days after coming down from altitude. They could see something off, but be worried that any anomaly could be explained away due to proximity to altitude. What the testers might then do would be following her whereabouts and try get multiple tests in the exact same post altitude window to show that the initial test cannot be explained to proximity to altitude.
I believe this logic is what relates to the Fancy Bears "likely doping" list that got leaked a few years back. Athletes with off scores that raised questions in the past but that didn't meet a threshold for a ban under the ABP so required further evidence.
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Less evidence than Paula . I see a reversal
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Poor Winfred Yavi was run out of the medals despite leaving everything on the field.
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Unfortunately the gold medal will to to Ethiopia's dude_ Getachew...so sad 🤔🤔🤔
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consistency wrote:
olyrun3 wrote:
Jeruto is only provisionally suspended for a blood passport discrepancy from 2020. Her values were good in'21 and '22. There is no indication that she was doping during the '22 World Champs. The process needs come to it's completion. It's not helpful that some US women runners find it necessary to celebrate Jurotos's provisional suspension before all the facts are out.
Allegedly from 2020 ("very high in September"), and allegedly her values were "consistent" (with what?) in 21 and 22. This is all from her agent, not an official from the AIU.
But yes, let's wait and see.
Even if the offense dates back to September 2020 though, her (normally 4 year) ban would start then, leading to DQs in all races since that date. Even if she'd only get a 2 year ban (highly unlikely for an ABP violation), she'd get lose her Worlds title.
How was she not provisionally suspended in 2020 and able to continue competing after the failed ABP violation? This makes zero sense. Even if she is DQd from past events (which would be appropriate), how do others recuperate list earnings? WA and AIU have some splaining to do.
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Doper’s gold medal goes to a DSD athlete. Just wow.
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Jonathan Gault spoke to Jeruto's agent and he said he believes the ABP violation was from 2020. Now we are wondering, why did they wait so long?
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Clean Sport Advocate wrote:
Why are you bringing Shelby into this? We already have 100 threads about Shelby. This thread is about Jeruto. As for Jeruto, here is what I have to say:
Freddy, sadly, bit the dust very prematurely.
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After so many busts, why is it still news that yet another Kenyan runner is popped for doping? There should simply be a column here - like shares on the stock market - that gives a weekly update on Kenyan doping.
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I'm expecting a certain poster (and his lap dancers) to turn up to say her violation is nothing like it seems - it may not be a violation at all! - and she is yet another "innocent victim of an unfair system" and it says nothing about the seriousness of Kenyan doping. Counting - 1,2.3 ...
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Kenya needs a 10 year ban from international competition. Dirty dopers. ,
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Tisialan wrote:
Disappointing, but unsurprising.
So that's the all time #2 and #3 busted for doping, and with the #4 clearly DSD, that 8:44 from Chepkoech looks... slightly unbelievable to put it politely.
Now do the 100m lol
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