rojo just imagine if you didn't have this suicidal urge to talk about things outside your limited band of actual knowledge, your goal of appearing smart might have actually been within your grasp
When you stop trying to learn new things or even discuss them you become ignorant
Trump announced that he expects to be srrested because it keeps him in the spotlight, riles up his supporters and is a great flashpoint for raising money. Everything Trump does or says is designed to gain attention and raise money.
This is it. The right answer. His cult has yet to grasp this.
I've always thought it was embarrassing that the two people nominated for president in 2016 were Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton and joked it would be great to see both end up in prison.
Well Trump is saying he'll be arrested on Tuesday for paying Stormy Daniels to stay quiet about their affair. Now, while my disgust for Trump and Hilary stemmed from my belief that that the Presidency should be reserved for the best of the best and we have 300 million to choose from,and I was choosing these two would be at the bottomof the list, but I'm not a fan of this Trump arrest.
When electing people, we should hold the candidates to a very high standard. But we should not be prosecuting them for stuff they wouldn't be prosecuted for as normal citizens. That ends up turning the US into a kangaroo court wher the parties just jail the other side once they gain power.
The logic for calling Trump's payment to Stormy a felony election law crime is a stretch.
Reason Mag wrote:
It looks like Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, a Democrat, intends to pursue criminal charges against former President Donald Trump. But the charges he seems to have in mind, based on a 2016 hush payment to porn star Stormy Daniels, are so iffy that they reinforce Trump's reflexive complaint that he is, as always, the victim of a long-running Democratic "witch hunt." Daniels claims she had a sexual affair with Trump in 2006, when he was married to his current wife, former First Lady Melania Trump. Although Trump denies the affair, he arranged a $130,000 payment to Daniels in the fall of 2016 to keep her story out of the press. There is nothing inherently illegal about that payment. But Michael Cohen, the Trump lawyer who paid off Daniels and was reimbursed by Trump, pleaded guilty in 2018 to violating federal law by making an excessive campaign contribution. The theory underlying that charge was that Cohen "contributed" the hush money at Trump's behest for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election," as opposed to avoiding personal embarrassment for Trump or sparing Melania Trump's feelings. As former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith noted at the time, that interpretation was open to question. "The best interpretation of the law is that it simply is not a campaign expense to pay blackmail for things that happened years before one's candidacy—and thus nothing Cohen (or, in this case, Trump, too) did is a campaign finance crime," Smith wrote in a 2018 Reason essay. "But at a minimum, it is unclear whether paying blackmail to a mistress is 'for the purpose of influencing an election,' and so must be paid with campaign funds, or a 'personal use,' and so prohibited from being paid with campaign funds."
If you are going to go out of your way to charge Trump, then certainly Hilary needs to be arrrested for her emails. The head of the FBI basicallys aid what she did was a crime, he just didn't think it was one that warranted prosecution as she didn't do it intentionally.
PS. I guess counter argument would be we need to hold our candidates to even higher standards? I guess that would be ok if we then applied that to everyone, not just the candidates we most dislike. So if you do Trump, you also need to do Hillary.
There's no way they could prove that he did this with the intent of benefitting his campaign unless there was an email or recording... Quite frankly, he could just come out and say, "Yeah, I was embarrassed to be sleeping with such an ugly woman but sometimes you do what you gotta do"
Wow. Trump derangement syndrome rages on amongst the increasingly fascist American left. Why are you all so afraid of Trump? Worried he might stop WWIII from starting?
rojo just imagine if you didn't have this suicidal urge to talk about things outside your limited band of actual knowledge, your goal of appearing smart might have actually been within your grasp
When you stop trying to learn new things or even discuss them you become ignorant
when you take on the responsibility of running a contentious message board, only a very ignorant, self-centered individual would use it to further their own views.
Trump announced that he expects to be srrested because it keeps him in the spotlight, riles up his supporters and is a great flashpoint for raising money. Everything Trump does or says is designed to gain attention and raise money.
This is it. The right answer. His cult has yet to grasp this.
He is watching the polls that show him neck-and-neck with DeSantis and wants to create some separation. Being arrested will rally even many DeSantis supporters to his cause.
Just watch. If Trump is arrested, or even charged, it will boost his poll numbers and fund raising. He will leverage it for all it's worth.
Wow. Trump derangement syndrome rages on amongst the increasingly fascist American left. Why are you all so afraid of Trump? Worried he might stop WWIII from starting?
This is it. The right answer. His cult has yet to grasp this.
He is watching the polls that show him neck-and-neck with DeSantis and wants to create some separation. Being arrested will rally even many DeSantis supporters to his cause.
Just watch. If Trump is arrested, or even charged, it will boost his poll numbers and fund raising. He will leverage it for all it's worth.
I think you may be right with DeSantis in terms of the Trump Cult being galvanized but, in the long run, it may hurt the GOP because there's enough on the GOP center and non affiliated who are just tired of this guy's act and won't vote for him.
Arresting a former president for a misdemeanor nobody ever gets charged with is obvious banana republic/political persecution. This is what scared tyrants do to hold onto power in corrupt cartelized governments, not democratic systems. This will backfire hugely on Biden and his doomed administration.
The NY DA has turned this into a circus. His record on fighting crime is horrendous.
I've always thought it was embarrassing that the two people nominated for president in 2016 were Donald Trump and [Hillary] Clinton and joked it would be great to see both end up in prison.
. . .
When electing people, we should hold the candidates to a very high standard. But we should not be prosecuting them for stuff they wouldn't be prosecuted for as normal citizens. . . .
A "normal citizen"--Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's accomplice--was prosecuted for his role.
The logic for calling Trump's payment to Stormy a felony election law crime is a stretch.
Honestly, it is--but his accomplice went to prison for it.
If you are going to go out of your way to charge Trump, then certainly [Hillary] needs to be [arrested] for her emails.
I won't bother explaining how her email situation is very different from what he's looking at--that's been done to death already--and just say that if she goes to prison for doing official business on a private server, than Jared and Ivanka, who were official members of the Trump administration and did exactly that, should go too.
I think I'm pretty well known as someone who has never cast a ballot on the Democratic line, but to equate President Trump's wrongdoing/apparent lawbreaking in the Stormy Daniels affair with Secretary Clinton's wrong handling of emails (following the procedures of her predecessors, even) is simply absurd. False equivalency much?
Trump announced that he expects to be [arrested] because it keeps him in the spotlight, riles up his supporters and is a great flashpoint for raising money. Everything Trump does or says is designed to gain attention and raise money.
The best succinct summary of his statements and actions that I have seen.
President Clinton, while in office, paid $850,000 to Paula Jones to settle her highly credible sexual harassment case. Liberals had no problem with that.
I'll be much happier with an indictment in GA and slightly less so for the Mar[-a-Lago] documents case. That's the main crime. This NY stuff...weak sauce.
I have to agree. The main benefit of a NY arrest--if it happens--is that it would break the ice and allow other indictments (in the "real" alleged crimes) to be handed down.
Fair enough. But this is a messageboard with a filter and I specifically posted this under non-running content. I could have posted it under a fake name, maybe that would have been better? But critics constantly complain about anonymity.
The messageboard has always been where people can discuss whatever they want. I say it's what the you'd talk about on a long run with your friends.
False. One of my threads was deleted because the subject involved Coronavirus.
Sure. For just one other topic among many, how long do theism/atheism threads last?
Wow. Trump derangement syndrome rages on amongst the increasingly fascist American left. Why are you all so afraid of Trump? Worried he might stop WWIII from starting?
Being outside America can give you a better perspective than marinating in the media stew of lies we've been inundated with.
Let's see, Trump had the full weight of the department of Justice, the FBI and the CIA investigating him for over 3 years and they found nothing. Is there anyone else in Wash D.C. that could stand up to that kind of scrutiny? How many of us across America could stand up to that? They went after his kids, and found nothing. They finally got his tax records released and found nothing.
He was famous for years and liked by politicians, TV networks etc... It wasn't until he came down that escalator that he became an instant villain because he was an outsider, meaning he wasn't part of the good ole' boys club in Washington, which is really just a proponent of one world government. Democrat/Republican is just theatre because most people support one or the other like they're backing a sports team.
They couldn't destroy his public support. They couldn't compromise him, because he took no special interest money. He didn't even take a salary as President. Meanwhile his business suffered losses while the media relentlessly parroted, or invented anything negative they could.
It's not about liking him, or not liking him. It's not like we're gonna hang out and have a couple beers. It's easy to see the good he did for the USA. We all lived through it. The economy got noticably better for working people. Wages increased, jobs increased, we became energy independant, he got us out of wars. He got a peace agreement in the middle east - something no one ever did, or believed was even possible (you had to dig to learn about it, the media didn't tell us).
What did Obama ever do for the American people, apart from trying to spark racism and make us more socialist. For a century, most people knew socialism/communism/fascism was bad. The twentieth century is littered with examples. The results are always the same, the people become impoverished and enslaved - and those are the ones that weren't killed. Now, since the education system has been taken over, a generation of young people actually believe it's a viable system. Insane!
Rojo actually puts Trump in the same boat with Hillary? She has broken multiple federal laws - and every American knows it. After her emails were subpeonaed, she destroyed them. If any one of us had done that, we'd still be sitting in prison - and that's just the tip of the iceberg with her.
President Clinton, while in office, paid $850,000 to Paula Jones to settle her highly credible sexual harassment case. Liberals had no problem with that.
I'm not sure it was "highly credible" after seeing Paula Jones' face, but in any case, settling a lawsuit is not the same as paying someone to keep quiet. Totally different things, aren't they?
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