A little bit of CONTEXT behind what Woody Kincaid has done

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

altitude_hermit wrote:

I think the best is still yet to come for Woody and I can't wait to see what he can do in the next few years if he stays healthy and finds himself in the right situation.

Lol. So what's next, 12:45???

C'mon. I'm not sayng you are wrong, but....

When Woody Kincaid [ who didn't break 14:00 til his Jr year in college??] runs 12:51 with a MONSTER kick, i.e. running as well as Bekele, Geb, and Komen ever did indoors [ or virtually equal] and the "best is still yet to come".... something is indeed "up".

It's either [ take your pick, or some combo of]-

1] the super shoes

2] the super track

3] PED's

4] "new age" methods [ artificial altitude air inhalation, gray area supplements, etc]

It's not just natural development/ hard work.

And I personally am certainly not saying it's number three. But it IS some combo of the above.

altitude_hermit wrote:

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Lol. So what's next, 12:45???

Why not? Grant Fisher went 12:53 indoors --> 12:46 outdoors last year.

Plus, beating Joe Klecker in January isn't the pinnacle of running achievement. When I say the best is yet to come, I mean that I believe Woody has the ability to put himself closer to medal contention and will hopefully be a bigger player in international meets.

And I agree it's not all just "natural development." The super spikes are clearly playing a role in inflating times across the board. No way Woody runs 12:51 in 2010-era spikes.

It isn't about the times he (or anyone else) is running. The point is his dramatic improvement relative to other top Americans. Woody was never top-3 in an NCAA championship, and now he is one the best 2 or 3 distance runners in the USA.

My point is that I think this improvement has more to do with his late start and injuries more than anything else. Too many people buy this narrative that "talent" is just whoever runs the fastest at 18-19 years old, and any major breakthroughs after that are inherently suspicious.

My belief (which I realize many might disagree with) is that Woody was always as talented as someone like Grant Fisher, we just didn't see his potential at a younger age due to the reasons I outlined in my previous post.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

altitude_hermit wrote:

I think the best is still yet to come for Woody and I can't wait to see what he can do in the next few years if he stays healthy and finds himself in the right situation.

Lol. So what's next, 12:45???

C'mon. I'm not sayng you are wrong, but....

When Woody Kincaid [ who didn't break 14:00 til his Jr year in college??] runs 12:51 with a MONSTER kick, i.e. running as well as Bekele, Geb, and Komen ever did indoors [ or virtually equal] and the "best is still yet to come".... something is indeed "up".

It's either [ take your pick, or some combo of]-

1] the super shoes

2] the super track

3] PED's

4] "new age" methods [ artificial altitude air inhalation, gray area supplements, etc]

It's not just natural development/ hard work.

And I personally am certainly not saying it's number three. But it IS some combo of the above.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

altitude_hermit wrote:

I think the best is still yet to come for Woody and I can't wait to see what he can do in the next few years if he stays healthy and finds himself in the right situation.

Lol. So what's next, 12:45???

C'mon. I'm not sayng you are wrong, but....

When Woody Kincaid [ who didn't break 14:00 til his Jr year in college??] runs 12:51 with a MONSTER kick, i.e. running as well as Bekele, Geb, and Komen ever did indoors [ or virtually equal] and the "best is still yet to come".... something is indeed "up".

It's either [ take your pick, or some combo of]-

1] the super shoes

2] the super track

3] PED's

4] "new age" methods [ artificial altitude air inhalation, gray area supplements, etc]

It's not just natural development/ hard work.

And I personally am certainly not saying it's number three. But it IS some combo of the above.