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Woody MF Kincaid - Is 12:51 good for an opener?
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good "rust buster".
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rojo wrote:
Here are the =lap splits for Kincaid and how far ahead or behind he was of Klecker. The rabbitting was maestro as they started off slowish and worked their way into it.
Lap Split Cumulative Time Difference from Joe Klecker
200m 31.10 31.10 +0.69
400m 31.30 1:02.40 +1.07
600m 31.75 1:34.14 +0.51
800m 31.78 2:05.91 -0.14
1000m 31.72 2:37.63 -0.79
1200m 31.36 3:08.98 -1.35
1400m 31.96 3:40.94 -1.07
1600m 31.50 4:12.44 -0.64
1800m 30.76 4:43.19 -1.48
2000m 30.72 5:13.90 -2.03
2200m 30.43 5:44.33 -2.30
2400m 30.99 6:15.32 -2.09
2600m 30.80 6:46.11 -2.35
2800m 31.17 7:17.27 -2.22
3000m 31.07 7:48.34 -2.42
3200m 31.66 8:20.00 -2.09
3400m 31.40 8:51.39 -2.35
3600m 31.11 9:22.49 -2.64
3800m 30.69 9:53.18 -2.99
4000m 30.25 10:23.43 -3.43
4200m 30.22 10:53.64 -3.46
4400m 30.74 11:24.38 -3.13
4600m 30.85 11:55.23 -3.02
4800m 30.12 12:25.34 -3.75
5000m 26.27 12:51.61 -3.38What happened here? These time differentials are way wrong. Here’s what they actually look like:
Kincaid’s time difference from Klecker (only ahead at 5000)
200 -0.69
400 -1.07
600 -0.90
800 -0.91
1000 -1.10
1200 -0.89
1400 -0.93
1600 -0.96
1800 -1.06
2000 -1.00
2200 -0.60
2400 -0.70
2600 -0.65
2800 -0.57
3000 -0.21
3200 -0.24
3400 -0.23
3600 -0.22
3800 -0.20
4000 -0.26
4200 -0.21
4400 -0.81
4600 -1.33
4800 -1.38
5000 +3.38Woody was ~a second down early because he was running behind Herrera, Beamish, and Jacobs. As those guys faded one by one (Beamish - Herrera - Jacobs) Kincaid pulled closer to Klecker until he was ~.2” behind. He was hurting and running further adrift from 42-4800 until he found his ridiculous kick he seems to have no matter what.
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Woody is tough, he should be win the 10k at usas or be very close to fisher. I think he’s a phenomenal runner & a great dude. BUT someone please tell the man to stop touching his face during interviews!
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So much props to Klecker too. He gave it everything he had.
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I mean, good for Woody, but these times are just not historically comparable. Imo, of course.
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Would be nice to have this actually translate to international championship racing.
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Would be nice to have this actually translate to international championship racing.
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Drug peddler Jerry goes home devastated. Tells woody he’s throwing his career away. Woody sets AR. Go eat more burritos with Shelby, Jerry
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StillCompeting wrote:
Lade Llatt wrote:
Woody never gets drug tested and has some very suspcious fluctuations
Woody Kincaid never gets tested, but some guy named William Kincaid got tested ten times last year.
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I love Klecker he’s a very good looking dude hes one of the only dudes that make mustaches look cool. I just never noticed the bald spot before. I’m not hating big fan of his. I just had never noticed it before.
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
rojo wrote:
4200m 30.22 10:53.64 -3.46
4400m 30.74 11:24.38 -3.13
4600m 30.85 11:55.23 -3.02
4800m 30.12 12:25.34 -3.75
5000m 26.27 12:51.61 -3.38What happened here? These time differentials are way wrong. Here’s what they actually look like:
Kincaid’s time difference from Klecker (only ahead at 5000)
4400 -0.81
4600 -1.33
4800 -1.38
5000 +3.38Woody was ~a second down early because he was running behind Herrera, Beamish, and Jacobs. As those guys faded one by one (Beamish - Herrera - Jacobs) Kincaid pulled closer to Klecker until he was ~.2” behind. He was hurting and running further adrift from 42-4800 until he found his ridiculous kick he seems to have no matter what.
I just watched the video and the biggest gap Klecker had on Kincaid into the 5th Km and for a big chunk of it was def more than the 1.3x shown above, was somewhere closer to 3 secs, and even right through to the bell at 4800 - Klecker slowed down in the last 200 vs his previous 2-3 laps
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briguy wrote:
Drug peddler Jerry goes home devastated. Tells woody he’s throwing his career away. Woody sets AR. Go eat more burritos with Shelby, Jerry
This is a very interesting interesting troll game you are playing. On the one hand you are loyal to Jerry and the other hand you attack him to instigate discussion.
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TeteDLO wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
What happened here? These time differentials are way wrong. Here’s what they actually look like:
Kincaid’s time difference from Klecker (only ahead at 5000)
4400 -0.81
4600 -1.33
4800 -1.38
5000 +3.38Woody was ~a second down early because he was running behind Herrera, Beamish, and Jacobs. As those guys faded one by one (Beamish - Herrera - Jacobs) Kincaid pulled closer to Klecker until he was ~.2” behind. He was hurting and running further adrift from 42-4800 until he found his ridiculous kick he seems to have no matter what.
I just watched the video and the biggest gap Klecker had on Kincaid into the 5th Km and for a big chunk of it was def more than the 1.3x shown above, was somewhere closer to 3 secs, and even right through to the bell at 4800 - Klecker slowed down in the last 200 vs his previous 2-3 laps
Fact is, you’re mistaken. I got my data from the official 200m splits and then after seeing your post rewatched the race with my Timex, and the splits check out. Klecker’s lead was surely a bit more than 1.38 at some point, but not at the start/finish and I’m very confident it was never 2 seconds.
^See the splits tab.
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tryingtobefast wrote:
Evidencerer wrote:
Have you got substantial evidence for your accusations?
lol if anyone had substantial evidence he would be banned. However, people don't just break out into the global scene at the tail end of their career. Woody was a nobody until the 12:58, then he was good. There was no in between. He has had career trajectory looks a lot like a lot of people who have tested positive :) .
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
So, I also find it suspicious, but he was an on-the-radar nobody pre-12:58. He went to some small school in Portland and I think was injured a lot? Anyway, he had some very impressive race in '15 or '16 that I don't remember, I'm assuming his huge kick was on full display, and in the '16 trials he went to the front with someone else because they didn't have the time qualifiers yet. But around that time I made a screenname on here "Woody KinPAID" so I, as a fairly casual (especially of collegiate) track fan was well aware of him and expecting something at least fun if not super fast.
One of those classic always had the talent but had trouble putting it together cases. Or maybe drugs, I dunno, but he was an exciting non-nobody for a while before these big, fairly random breakouts.
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Yodel wrote:
Lade Llatt wrote:
Woody never gets drug tested and has some very suspcious fluctuations
Woody was almost 27 when he first broke 13 and he had a best of 13:27 at that time, I believe. Now Woody is 30 and running 12:51 indoors (which of course is faster at Boston than outdoors) but…
I feel like Woody fell from the sky in like 2019. Had never heard of him before then and yet he graduated high school in 2010 then college in 2016?
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Snake in my boot wrote:
Yodel wrote:
Woody was almost 27 when he first broke 13 and he had a best of 13:27 at that time, I believe. Now Woody is 30 and running 12:51 indoors (which of course is faster at Boston than outdoors) but…
I feel like Woody fell from the sky in like 2019. Had never heard of him before then and yet he graduated high school in 2010 then college in 2016?
A background article on Woody from 2017. Aptly titled.
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kimani wrote:
tryingtobefast wrote:
lol if anyone had substantial evidence he would be banned. However, people don't just break out into the global scene at the tail end of their career. Woody was a nobody until the 12:58, then he was good. There was no in between. He has had career trajectory looks a lot like a lot of people who have tested positive :) .
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
So, I also find it suspicious, but he was an on-the-radar nobody pre-12:58. He went to some small school in Portland and I think was injured a lot? Anyway, he had some very impressive race in '15 or '16 that I don't remember, I'm assuming his huge kick was on full display, and in the '16 trials he went to the front with someone else because they didn't have the time qualifiers yet. But around that time I made a screenname on here "Woody KinPAID" so I, as a fairly casual (especially of collegiate) track fan was well aware of him and expecting something at least fun if not super fast.
One of those classic always had the talent but had trouble putting it together cases. Or maybe drugs, I dunno, but he was an exciting non-nobody for a while before these big, fairly random breakouts.
You guys are overthinking this. He's still young.
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