What’s wrong with you people? Seidel was the Olympic silver medalist on the marathon <18 months ago. You are a fickle bunch with an astoundingly poor memory.
I think she just likes to rewrite her own story over and over again. In every new story is some truth and some lies. She wants attention and to be special
As it turns out, Molly has provided answers to many of your questions. Just because she didn't email the information directly to you doesn't mean it isn't easily and publicly available. She was a DNS at Worlds due to a fractured sacrum, not because she was waiting on the Adderall TUE. She has stopped taking Adderall, but is still pursuing a TUE, in case she ever wants to start using it again. She is currently taking Naltrexone, which does not require a TUE, to help manage the OCD and bulimia.
Molly isn't one of the pro runners I follow the closest, but this information is hardly difficult to find! The details are laid out in a Runner's World article and were shared widely on running-related Instagram, Twitter, newsletters, etc. last month. Even if you're not a fan of Molly's personality, it's weird of you to act like she's being shady and keeping all these secrets, when in reality you're just not reading the entirely available updates on her health.
A complete lack of transparency? She gets knocked on this forum repeatedly for sharing too much!
As someone already noted, information about her training, competition, injuries, and other travails is everywhere if you care to look. Molly is one of the most transparent pro runners out there, likely because (as she has said) she's trying to make it easier for others facing the same struggles to reach out and seek help.
Just so you don't miss anything, here's Molly's recent instagram after the BAA half. You know, so you're not too worried about her transparency.
"76:21 for the half, DFL in the pro field, and a major step in the right direction After a bad race there’s a cliche for a pro to post “it wasn’t the race I wanted…” but honestly yesterday was exactly what I expected and wanted. This last year has been (to put it plainly) hellish, and since July I’ve been all-in on getting my physical and mental health right. Jon & I knew that lining up at BAA half would be a tough experience with me going in basically untrained, feeling self-conscious about my body image and of disappointing people who expect me to be running at an Olympic caliber. The ego would take a hit, but the important thing was to not quit. It can be hard to focus on positives when the only physical evidence of that race is a (for me) very slow time, but it’s progress. It’s the first race I’ve done in a year that I’ve been fully pain-free. For the first time in months I’ve actually lined up and been excited to be there and happy to be running. Mid-race when I was DFL in the pro field and the rain was absolutely pouring I was just so happy to be out there racing again. Thank you to everyone who came out yesterday in the pouring rain to support. Racing with my @verdetrackclub team, my mom & best friend seeing me run, and having hundreds of people just cheering for me regardless of place left my heart so full. Hard works comes in many forms, and while the results might not show it the last few months have been the hardest work I’ve done in a long time. Here’s to continuing to get 1% better each day."
Likely upgraded to at least silver, if not gold, in the next few years.
Kinda like what happened to the people finishing behind Lance in the Tour de France and then we eventually find out everyone in the top 30 gets caught doping. How most of you still have your fingers in your ears about Molly Seidel's highly suspect Olympic marathon performance she has never even come close to replicating before or since astounds me. In front of Seidel are dopers and behind Seidel are dopers and you want me to believe Seidel is clean with an out of nowhere sudden performance after years doing nothing remotely close to it?
A complete lack of transparency? She gets knocked on this forum repeatedly for sharing too much!
As someone already noted, information about her training, competition, injuries, and other travails is everywhere if you care to look. Molly is one of the most transparent pro runners out there, likely because (as she has said) she's trying to make it easier for others facing the same struggles to reach out and seek help.
Just so you don't miss anything, here's Molly's recent instagram after the BAA half. You know, so you're not too worried about her transparency.
"76:21 for the half, DFL in the pro field, and a major step in the right direction After a bad race there’s a cliche for a pro to post “it wasn’t the race I wanted…” but honestly yesterday was exactly what I expected and wanted. This last year has been (to put it plainly) hellish, and since July I’ve been all-in on getting my physical and mental health right. Jon & I knew that lining up at BAA half would be a tough experience with me going in basically untrained, feeling self-conscious about my body image and of disappointing people who expect me to be running at an Olympic caliber. The ego would take a hit, but the important thing was to not quit. It can be hard to focus on positives when the only physical evidence of that race is a (for me) very slow time, but it’s progress. It’s the first race I’ve done in a year that I’ve been fully pain-free. For the first time in months I’ve actually lined up and been excited to be there and happy to be running. Mid-race when I was DFL in the pro field and the rain was absolutely pouring I was just so happy to be out there racing again. Thank you to everyone who came out yesterday in the pouring rain to support. Racing with my @verdetrackclub team, my mom & best friend seeing me run, and having hundreds of people just cheering for me regardless of place left my heart so full. Hard works comes in many forms, and while the results might not show it the last few months have been the hardest work I’ve done in a long time. Here’s to continuing to get 1% better each day."
I’m glad that she is getting better and the helps she needed.
My only question is why was she in the pro field today? In other sports, an injured athlete would be in the minors, triple a ball, practice squad, etc before they get back to the high level playing field.
Was it a contract obligated race, an appearance fee money grab? I do hope to see molly at her peak form again but there is no reason she should have been in the pro field with those times given her current fitness state
That is NOT what she said when she withdrew from worlds. She made a BIG DEAL that she was trying to get a TUE. That's the whole point. She changes her story....
A complete lack of transparency? She gets knocked on this forum repeatedly for sharing too much!
As someone already noted, information about her training, competition, injuries, and other travails is everywhere if you care to look. Molly is one of the most transparent pro runners out there, likely because (as she has said) she's trying to make it easier for others facing the same struggles to reach out and seek help.
Just so you don't miss anything, here's Molly's recent instagram after the BAA half. You know, so you're not too worried about her transparency.
"76:21 for the half, DFL in the pro field, and a major step in the right direction After a bad race there’s a cliche for a pro to post “it wasn’t the race I wanted…” but honestly yesterday was exactly what I expected and wanted. This last year has been (to put it plainly) hellish, and since July I’ve been all-in on getting my physical and mental health right. Jon & I knew that lining up at BAA half would be a tough experience with me going in basically untrained, feeling self-conscious about my body image and of disappointing people who expect me to be running at an Olympic caliber. The ego would take a hit, but the important thing was to not quit. It can be hard to focus on positives when the only physical evidence of that race is a (for me) very slow time, but it’s progress. It’s the first race I’ve done in a year that I’ve been fully pain-free. For the first time in months I’ve actually lined up and been excited to be there and happy to be running. Mid-race when I was DFL in the pro field and the rain was absolutely pouring I was just so happy to be out there racing again. Thank you to everyone who came out yesterday in the pouring rain to support. Racing with my @verdetrackclub team, my mom & best friend seeing me run, and having hundreds of people just cheering for me regardless of place left my heart so full. Hard works comes in many forms, and while the results might not show it the last few months have been the hardest work I’ve done in a long time. Here’s to continuing to get 1% better each day."
Again, it's not that she lacks sharing information. It's that the information is not consistent. First it was she "can't live without Adderall even for a few days" so she decided to withdraw from Worlds. Now the story is she has been battling a sacral fracture and that is the reason for the DNS at worlds. AND she says she's not taking Adderall now when just a few months ago she couldn't "function without it, even for a few days". WTF....
Likely upgraded to at least silver, if not gold, in the next few years.
Kinda like what happened to the people finishing behind Lance in the Tour de France and then we eventually find out everyone in the top 30 gets caught doping. How most of you still have your fingers in your ears about Molly Seidel's highly suspect Olympic marathon performance she has never even come close to replicating before or since astounds me. In front of Seidel are dopers and behind Seidel are dopers and you want me to believe Seidel is clean with an out of nowhere sudden performance after years doing nothing remotely close to it?
U.S. marathoner Molly Seidel told fans she would not be competing as planned this weekend because while awaiting an exemption to race with the ADHD medication Adderall
Kinda like what happened to the people finishing behind Lance in the Tour de France and then we eventually find out everyone in the top 30 gets caught doping. How most of you still have your fingers in your ears about Molly Seidel's highly suspect Olympic marathon performance she has never even come close to replicating before or since astounds me. In front of Seidel are dopers and behind Seidel are dopers and you want me to believe Seidel is clean with an out of nowhere sudden performance after years doing nothing remotely close to it?
Wasn't her Olympic a 2:27?
then she has a hilly 2:24 and a 2:25?
Didn't I already explain this multiple times in the Coach Jon Green and Cinderella thread? The Olympic marathon was a very hot day and Seidel's temperature graded time is around 2:18-2:19, which the East Africans that barely finished ahead of Seidel have run in past marathons. But not Seidel. You have got to be naiive to not see something is doesn't add up with Seidel and being "clean".
Molly is a beast. Props to her for sharing her struggles publicly and for being an exceptionally fast runner. F the misogynists on this sub. I loved her post race interview, she’s funny, whip smart and genuine. Rooting for her ongoing recovery
Didn't I already explain this multiple times in the Coach Jon Green and Cinderella thread? The Olympic marathon was a very hot day and Seidel's temperature graded time is around 2:18-2:19, which the East Africans that barely finished ahead of Seidel have run in past marathons. But not Seidel. You have got to be naiive to not see something is doesn't add up with Seidel and being "clean".
"Temperature graded time"??? What about her shoe lace torque conversion? And her non-sponsor kit familiarity deficit ?
Yeah, I think these "conversions" are usually not helpful. Looking at other runners in that race, 2:27 in the conditions *might* indicate sub 2:20 potential but it could also very well be that Seidel "lost" only about 4-5 min. On could take her strong performance as an indication that she didn't suffer as much from the conditions as some others. For whatever reason several athletes of European extraction did comparably well in that race (Diver, Elmore, Wodak, Schlumpf...)
Didn't I already explain this multiple times in the Coach Jon Green and Cinderella thread? The Olympic marathon was a very hot day and Seidel's temperature graded time is around 2:18-2:19, which the East Africans that barely finished ahead of Seidel have run in past marathons. But not Seidel. You have got to be naiive to not see something is doesn't add up with Seidel and being "clean".
Doping makes run fast when hot. got it.
She got the bronze because she apparently can race well in heat. ideal conditions and I don’t think she makes the podium. but that’s racing for you, good for her
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