Actually, he was a 49.0 440 guy in high school (when he was already about seven feet tall). Even more impressive, I think, he was a 1:58.3 880 guy in high school.
Actually, he was a 49.0 440 guy in high school (when he was already about seven feet tall). Even more impressive, I think, he was a 1:58.3 880 guy in high school.
Bill Russell also sub 50 secs I believe.
But he and Wilt weighed nowhere near 280lbs when they ran those times
Wilt Chamberlain broke 50 in the 400m and he was 7-1. Granted, he was very slim in those days, and he was Wilt EFFING Chamberlain, but I don't find it hard to believe that after some hard training Zion could break 60. I didn't read the article, though, and do not intend to.
You ran and played basketball? And you are still this wrong???? WTF? I guess logic and reasoning are not your strong points.
Breaking 60 is nothing for a good Sprinter. Even a big one. Do you really want me to list all the top level 100 m guys who also ran world class 400s in the last few years?? The events translate very well to one another. Most basketball players are more than respectable sprinters. Many also do some endurance work and yes there is absolutely an aerobic component to playing basketball. Put alllll that together... and the large majority of NBA players [except the super tall_super gangly uncoordinated slow ones] can break 60. Easily.
Zion , *before he lost the weight* could dunk from the free-throw line. THAT my friend is explosive power. I'm Sure he can run a decent 100m. And from there to a 60 sec 400 would only take a smidgen of aerobic ability.
I'm giving you a thousand down votes.
Most basketball players are terrible sprinters. Hence "breaking 60 is nothing for a good sprinter" is a terrible argument.
Just about the only people who think hoopers are good sprinters are...hoopers. until they meet real runners, which they seldom do cause they spend all their time at the courts. When a runner (sprinter) comes by and shows them real speed, they get VERY confused. Usually pretty angry, too, if it results in it showing them up on the court. But every once in a while they get a kick out of it cause it blows their mind so much
Look, I never said he could run some amazing 100m . Just a "decent" one. I'll lower the bar: I bet you anything in the world he can run 12.5. What kinda "speed" do you think it takes to run a sub 60?? Lol. Not that much. And again, despite your protests, basketball players absolutely have some aerobic training/ ability. Hell, slow Larry Bird used to run laps ALL the time and jumped in a 5 mile race for fun and ran 32:30. Ran a 5:08 practice mile in college. These guys HAVE some aerobic ability. Combined with their explosiveness/ sprinting practice [ up and down the court and ever hear of suicides?,] a 60 400 for most of them is nothing.
It's not surprising but is impressive for such a big guy. Get over it, it happened.
Many people don't really have a conception of how physically demanding it is to play defense in basketball at a very high competitive level. It is nothing like playing defense in a pick-up game at the playground.
It's "physically demanding" to dead lift 600lbs. Doing so doesn't translate to an immediate sub 60 400m run. And, similarly, deadlifting 600lbs doesn't translate to being capable of defending NBA level talent on the court....or even college level talent.
These are all separate things.
Deadlifting 600 is rare. NBA level basketball ability is by definition rare.
A 59-second 400 is NOTHING, nothing at all compared to those. I am in my late 40s and can do that any day at all, training less than two hours per week.
Almost any NBA player could run a 28 and likely a 59, even the big men. I hate to break it to you but that is very athletic.
I had a shot putter teammate in high school that was 5'11" 270 pounds and we had a fun 4x400 relay at the one of the mid season meets senior year and he ran 70 seconds.
Idk if I believe Zion running sub 60 second 400s unless it was just 1 and that's still unlikely.
LOL, say goodbye to whatever credibility you might have had.
Sure. Just like I said goodbye in the final 40 meters of the 100 to all the football guys who also tried to run track.
I get that you're using this thread as a vehicle to talk about yourself but we're talking about Zion. No one's suggesting he's a world class sprinter or even that he's a good sprinter. A 60 second 400 is respectable but hardly fast. No doubt a 22 YO explosive athlete with even modest aerobic development can do it. Even one who weighs 285#.
I had a shot putter teammate in high school that was 5'11" 270 pounds and we had a fun 4x400 relay at the one of the mid season meets senior year and he ran 70 seconds.
Idk if I believe Zion running sub 60 second 400s unless it was just 1 and that's still unlikely.
why?
your non-elite and even stockier teammate from a sport that involves no running does close to ZERO aerobic training dropped a 70 out of the blue,,,
Is it really so unbelievable that an elite athlete that is leaner, and participates in a sport that is HIGHLY aerobic, couldn't run a 60? especially after completing months of training specifically to get in shape?
Speaking of, in addition to a 49 400, Wilt was also national class at shot put and jumps. Probably could have been an Olympian. but he wanted the pussai
Zion could totally break 60 especially after losing 30+ pounds, people here who think otherwise are delusional about how special they are compared to athletic freaks who are compensated accordingly
Quick question, Perch. Do you know the difference between "aerobic" and "anaerobic"?
For the record, I believe Wilt and Russell's claimed sub 50 440s as equally dubious, if not more. Just to be clear.
Wilt and Russell did track in college. It's verified. Not to mention the video footage of then demonstrating insane speed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWelUNrJUMM).
You obviously are lying about having played high-level full court basketball. If you had, you would know it is a highly, highly aerobic activity. You're being such a pedant by talking about the length of the court. Sure the court is short, but they're constantly running all over it.
When you combine that aerobic conditioning with superhuman levels of explosiveness, as in Zion's case, there is zero doubt to any reasonable person that he could break 60. The over/under on his true 400 speed is probably something like 54 seconds.
Quick question, Perch. Do you know the difference between "aerobic" and "anaerobic"?
For the record, I believe Wilt and Russell's claimed sub 50 440s as equally dubious, if not more. Just to be clear.
Wilt and Russell did track in college. It's verified. Not to mention the video footage of then demonstrating insane speed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWelUNrJUMM).
You obviously are lying about having played high-level full court basketball. If you had, you would know it is a highly, highly aerobic activity. You're being such a pedant by talking about the length of the court. Sure the court is short, but they're constantly running all over it.
When you combine that aerobic conditioning with superhuman levels of explosiveness, as in Zion's case, there is zero doubt to any reasonable person that he could break 60. The over/under on his true 400 speed is probably something like 54 seconds.
I'm sorry, the sub 50s are VERIFIED?!?! Like, track results verified, not wikipedia verified? PLEASE hook us up with THAT citation!
Quick question, Perch. Do you know the difference between "aerobic" and "anaerobic"?
For the record, I believe Wilt and Russell's claimed sub 50 440s as equally dubious, if not more. Just to be clear.
Wilt and Russell did track in college. It's verified. Not to mention the video footage of then demonstrating insane speed (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWelUNrJUMM).
You obviously are lying about having played high-level full court basketball. If you had, you would know it is a highly, highly aerobic activity. You're being such a pedant by talking about the length of the court. Sure the court is short, but they're constantly running all over it.
When you combine that aerobic conditioning with superhuman levels of explosiveness, as in Zion's case, there is zero doubt to any reasonable person that he could break 60. The over/under on his true 400 speed is probably something like 54 seconds.
I'm sorry, the sub 50s are VERIFIED?!?! Like, track results verified, not wikipedia verified? PLEASE hook us up with THAT citation!
I had a shot putter teammate in high school that was 5'11" 270 pounds and we had a fun 4x400 relay at the one of the mid season meets senior year and he ran 70 seconds.
Idk if I believe Zion running sub 60 second 400s unless it was just 1 and that's still unlikely.
Could your high school teamate drop step and put his chin on the basketball rim? If not, then the comparison doesn't hold a lot of water.
Sure. Just like I said goodbye in the final 40 meters of the 100 to all the football guys who also tried to run track.
I get that you're using this thread as a vehicle to talk about yourself but we're talking about Zion. No one's suggesting he's a world class sprinter or even that he's a good sprinter. A 60 second 400 is respectable but hardly fast. No doubt a 22 YO explosive athlete with even modest aerobic development can do it. Even one who weighs 285#.