28% of Americans won’t even consider buying an EV

You sound poor.

Great post. Having had an EV in the family for four years, and now a second, it is rare that I have to worry about charge. There are plenty of places to get our Teslas charged, and more and more options for non-Teslas are becoming available. Essentially no maintenance, aside from tire maintenance (regular rotations and normal replacement due to wear). The batteries purportedly last 350k-500k miles. Acceleration is instantaneous, handling is impressive.

The one major negative is cold-weather battery performance. This is an engineering issue that the major auto manufacturers will hopefully solve, as you don't want to get stuck with very low battery in freezing temperatures.

In terms of price, Tesla is competitive with comparable ICE models from other companies when you factor in maintenance and fuel savings. A long-range Tesla 3 has acceleration and features comparable to a BMW M3 sedan or AMG C63, and goes for about $50k total, well below the sticker of those cars. Even a BMW 340i with XDrive has a higher MSRP.

If your EV runs out of power on the road and you have to walk to the charging station, what do you carry instead of a gas can?

Not many. It was more to demonstrate I want to go on a trip as long as I want whenever I want without having to stop for an hour each time I refuel or having to plan out charging stations.

I have frequently made road trips without planning, especially before I had kids. Twice I got off work on Friday and headed out or town, unplanned, and just worked from a hotel for a week in FL, ME, GA, or TN.

Correcting my last sentence. Twice I did this to FL. I've probably done it 25 or 30 times total before having my kid. Get off work, decide I want to go be somewhere else the next week, drive there, work remotely while checking out a new place. I've had the ability to do my job from a VPN since 2005.

You can't beat the sound of a V8, V10 or a flat 12

And those same people would probably buy an e-bike over a regular bicycle. Insert palm over face. . .

You are for sure correct that as gas cars are used less and less that states and the federal government will have to find a way to recoup those lost taxes. EV will have to pay a decent amount of taxes in some way. Not sure how that will happen, but it will.

Just on the surface it seems to make more sense to get a hybrid. Great fuel efficiency and the gas engine charges the battery.

Then of course we have the electrical grid problem. We are expecting power outages where we live, and yet they want us all to be charging our electric cars on top of our A/C?

Honestly, if we made a harder switch to nuclear, then the EV discussion makes a lot more sense. But when people want our energy to go to solar, and wind, but want us to have a higher energy demand, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

A purse?

You have to walk back and forth with one of those little portable charger power bank things.

Alan, you disappoint me. You're normally one of the more sensible posters on this board. It's WAY cheaper in electricity cost to charge at home than to fill up with gas. I've done the math and for me it's literally 25% of the cost per mile versus gasoline assuming a car with 40 mpg range. Also, I happen to have my 220V clothes dryer in my garage so I just plug into the same outlet with an adapter plug I bought on Amazon to fit the end of the charger that came with my Tesla Model 3, so I didn't have any installation cost but it would be a one-off few hundred dollar expense to install a 220V outlet for most people (btw, you can charge off a normal 110V outlet but it's slow and wouldn't fully charge overnight). On top of that, my Tesla Model 3 cost less to purchase than the Chrysler minivan that I also own. Not to mention that service costs for Teslas are practically zero, and it's not exactly difficult to remember to plug it in (and it's so F-ing convenient as opposed to stopping at a gas station a few times per month). Anyone who owns a home would do great with an EV in terms of cost and logistics as opposed to a new ICE car. The long trip anxiety is silly for almost all drivers. I get that it's possibly not super workable for an apartment renter.

This is the same thing as saying 72% of Americans would consider buying an EV. Huge win for EV supporters. Completely backwards way of expressing that fact.

Yup, came up with the exact same calculation for cost. May be even cheaper now with the insane gas prices. If your breaker box is in your garage, it is actually not too tough to install a 220V plug if you are handy, and competent with simple electrical jobs - did mine myself and passed inspection. The right gauge wire, a halex, and a 50 amp breaker cost about $50 IIRC. [Disclaimer: if you have never done electrical work before, and don't understand the basic concepts, DO NOT DO THIS YOURSELF! Hire an electrician and pay him the $400, not worth creating a serious fire hazard by doing it wrong.]

We are considering roof-mount solar panels, which would drive our home energy and car charging costs down even more.

The kind of person who forgets to charge their car is the same kind of person who forgets to get gas and runs out.

EVs have an indicator that has their range right on the dash, you fool.

Getting gas takes way more than 5 minutes. Me plugging in my car take about 10 secs. I didn't "install a charger" just a 220v plug. The average person drive 40 miles day, that 5 days for most EVs.

more than have this thread is people making fun of EV owners, but yeah, go ahead and whine about being called a dumb rube.

What the f*ck is it with americans and their need for giant cars? Holy crap. I'm an american but work for a Danish company and am in DK for a couple weeks every few months. It is so refreshing not to see all the idiotic Ford F150's (and bigger) the size of Mack trucks; people in DK get along just fine with sport wagons or smaller sedans, no one I know has every complained about their car not being big enough. Americans just fall for the most idiotic marketing and socialization imaginable. Fat a** people, fat a** wasteful automobiles.

And yes, EV's are certainly not perfect now, but what the naysayers never want to consider is they are still and emerging technology; the problems they have are all solvable.

When's the last time you had to walk to a gas station with a can to carry gas back to your car? Just wondering what kind of person gets themselves into that kind of situation.

I have been driving for 42 years and I have never once had to do that.