Shelby posts another time trial -- 4:01

It’s a little strange to do rust buster 2 1/2 years out from your next race.

I suppose it’s interesting to see the mindset of a drug cheat though.

What drug cheat would that be?

CAS never banned her for cheating .

That would be Shelby the drug cheat.
The clue is in the thread title.

I'm not

No ref to cheat in the thread title.

Thanks for stating the blatantly obvious on this one before I had to.

Yes, it does. You're finally starting to get it. CAS ruled an "intentional" ADRV.

One day she might beat 4 mins again. But 3.54 is out of the question. Without her nandrolone.

Is that so Shelby.... (Jerry? Shalane?)

Given that your entire post isn't even worded correctly, it might just be possible that a person stupid (and "pathetic") enough to contend that a pig offal burrito triggered a nandrolone level 2.5X the legal limit and then either stick with that story or vehemently support it actually wrote this.

Doesn't matter what CAS thinks, Heinz. She's a cheater. Gooned on nandro. All hepped up, gill-wise.

Like most of the Letsrun mob, this poster obviously has a lot of experience with the banned substance and has standing to be speaking about it.

Thanks for all you do.

I know how to read. She got popped for hot urine, extra nando. She doesn't dispute that. She said it must have been from a Mexican food truck burrito.

There's plenty more relevant facts, but is there anything else you or I need to know to determine she's a drug cheat other than what I posted above?

Okay so sure she can do what she wants in her own time - as can anyone. But that makes this a cheap and rather lame narrative to set up because fundamentally nobody can argue against that right?

I'm interested in the concept of the "cancel mob". What, people who love the sport at it's purest and therefore aren't interested in those who attempt to compete not within the rules (in this case nandrolone levels deemed illegal)? Again cheap and convenient to default to "cancel mob" - ironically it's Shelby Houlihan who cancelled herself by finding herself unable to plausibly explain what we all know very well by now.

You might find her story, her behavior telling the story, her weird backtrack on the story and then the social media posts as being sound of mind and "determined to get justice" - that's your opinion. Many, including myself, don't.

I find it to be very disconnected from reality. I see a young woman who has convinced herself she is a victim (which itself is a practice woven into the American psyche) and one unable to accept what's actually going on. Someone else said words to the effect of "I also do time trials and challenge myself, what's the big deal" - well, the big difference would be that in order to still run 1500m times in the vicinity of what she's doing (because 3.57-4.01 is still elite and world class) she must still be living the disciplined, dedicated and regimented lifestyle of a professional athlete. There is no way she is doing anything else in her life except living and training in the same way she did before (minus the nandrolone precursor supplements etc etc). Which is of course is great if you still are a professional athlete and you can then perform accordingly and be compensated - except she can't. She can't even turn up to a local road race and compete in it - she's banned from the sport. "More sharpening up to do" - for what? "More fun stuff to come" - what, you are going to go and do more world class track workouts that you will get ZERO return on?

You can think it's noble and inspiring - I think it's very troubling and uncoupled from reality.

Yes

Really; what strange thoughts

Strange that Wada agree with the argument that pigs and their offal generate false positives.

I would like to repeat that I view this last paragraph is an insult to any intelligent or educated reader.As such it is pathetic.

I agree with Salvitore Stitchmo. But I am not going to diagnose a mental health condition, but for sure, she is WEIRD. As weird as Susie Hamilton, delusional, not living in reality, not smart enough to realize that as long as she stays in denial, she may end up the Justin Gatlin of US middle distance running.