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Nick Bare went One More: 2:48:11 @ Buffalo Marathon
Training Advice/Discussion
Marathon
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bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
None of y'all would disrespect Big Nick to his face offline. Nick could easily pin your neck between his thighs and crack your neck in several places.
You have the strangest (and sickest) masturbation fantasies on letsrun.
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who is nick bare wrote:
Why do you all care? I had never heard of Nick Bare until I visited this forum. I suppose the whole instagram thing has passed me by and I refuse to visit his page because I don't want to give these airheads any money.
Am I impressed? No, not in the slightest.
There are many local runners who have done that time or faster whilst working a full time job and having kids. To me that is impressive. They are also all shapes and sizes... some are light some are heavy. What does it even matter? It is obvious Nick Bare is on a lot of suppliments.
This. Much more impressive when everyday people with lives run actually good times. 2:48?… please
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lmao I'll give you the crown for number 1 troll on this site. Congrats 🥳
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Alan beat that time off no talent, just God’s will
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My friend Julian Romero ran ~2:46 barefoot a few years ago and he weighed around that much.
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Prob just Tren and TRT
I mean the guy owns a supplement company.
You’re not that big and lean without some enhancement.
you also don’t look like that if you’re not training either.
He definitely works for it
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on a real course he would have barely broke 2:55
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Did I see somewhere that the winner ran in the 2:30’s pushing a stroller? We got any Strava data on the course length?
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Damn this is so cool. Congrats Nick, impressive stuff I must say
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short course wrote:
on a real course he would have barely broke 2:55
Is that course short?
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the 72 hour rule wrote:
jecht wrote:
I think it's more just envy than anything.
Envy? Meh, I don't know man. The guy just comes across as a sauced-up goofball making millions selling his supplements. I suppose I could be envious that he found a way to get rich doing what he loves, but I don't think anyone here is envious of his bicep size and mediocre marathon time.
Fair enough, I'd kill for his wealth, which would be harder to achieve than the 2:48 IMO. The only way out is the only way through though--we have to keep grinding.
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Mick Joggerrr wrote:
Nobody knows for sure if he is doping. What we do know for sure is that many Letsrun posters tend to get butt hurt when they see amateurs do impressive things in running. If only 4% of all marathon runners break 3 hours, then what NB did was impressive. The creation and prevalence of the term hobby jogger which is used to disparage amateur runners is a reflection of the insecurity of many posters on this message board. They like to believe they own this super inclusive club and get testy when anyone else gets money, recognition or success. It is kind of funny if you recognize it for what it is.
I'm glad this was said -- I just don't think Nick Bare is the right person to wave the reality check for some people posting on this website who act like solid race times aren't solid race times.
2:48 is fast. Is it world class? No. But anybody willing to do the training for a sub-2:50 marathon has to be putting in a decent amount of work & should represent the amateur spirit of this place.
As for the athlete in question, I hope he's clean but he's never going to get drug tested at a race & his #1 priority is himself. It helps his business (read: his bottom line) if he does well at races. A lot of his followers probably can't fathom a sub-3 marathon. 2:48 may as well be elite to his audience. It's worth it to him to get to a result like that & use that to drive sales. It would be a shame if he took a BQ slot away from someone. I don't want to come across as jealous but I also don't want to come across as naive. I'm definitely skeptical that this was a clean performance but he hasn't tested for any banned substance so I'll just say that I hope he takes the sport seriously enough not to cheat.
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runSONrun wrote:
Leadville, Rocky Racoon now 6:25’s for a marathon. How long is the list for 200+ pounders running sub 2:50?
He needs to run a 400 meter dash all out.
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Doped or not, this dude puts in the miles. 60-70 mile weeks consistently. Track workouts 8x1000 with 1min rest (thats a painful workout, K's are tough, especially on 1min rest).
Props to him. 6:15's for 26.2 takes dedication and commitment to get your body to that point. Lots of people never hit that pace for 5k, including many on this forum!
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Doped or not?
Of course he puts in the work. That's what being doped up allows you to do. You recover insanely quicker. Look at the guys "easy pace" in the low-mid 7's.
If you hit the gym and bench press heavy, say 4x5 or 5x5, there's no way in hell you can bench again for at least 4-5 days. On dope, you can be back at it in 48 hours.
Works the same for running.
Cheating is cheating.
Whatever moves his BPN product quicker off the shelves though...
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definitely using PED's. Dudes acne says it all .
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It's amazing yall lord all the real elite but those are the guys are on a boat load of drugs that even nick can't get his hands on... I'm not a fan of his but wat he did he truly amazing at his size n weight...all I sense is alot of jealousy from the running community towards nick cause he's doin time that lifetime runners can't even achieve... and the thing about it is that alot of yall recreation runners be taking stuff as well... u think those ultra marathoners are natty...u gotta be stupid to think that...the elite ones aint... and then ppl like sage come on here talking bs like he's all innocent to the bs as well...yall runners jealous nick and its evident lol... it's sad too see
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Why do you guys watch these YouTubers and influencers if all you do is hate on them? YOU are the ones making them rich! Are you so stupid that you can’t figure this out?
Why do you even know who these people are?! It’s like a soap opera to you or something, is this junior high? Are you a bunch of insecure teenage girls? I’m a middle aged woman and this thread is bizarre.
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S. Canaday wrote:
Running_guy wrote:
I get where you are coming from, but I can also understand why your typical letsrun user wouldn't take kindly to someone like Nick Bare. His time itself isn't all that impressive, but given he doesn't come from a running background and is probably around 200 pounds definitely makes things interesting. I do have a hard time believing he is natural. Whether he continues down the running path, or decides to do something else, I find him entertaining and motivating. As long as he isn't hurting anyone, I'm all for social media influencers drawing more attention running.
I think there is a lot of insecurity on letsrun, and it really shows when we have someone who doesn't come from a traditional running background, or look like your "typical" runner start to get some attention in the running world.
I think the point is if he is actually is using PEDs (doping), then it is a slap in the face to all the honest, hard working (clean) marathon runners out there. It's not about "coming from a traditional running background" or "weighing 180 lbs or 200lbs" it's simply about following the rules of the sport. So there is a component of ethics and integrity and tradition when it comes to using performance enhancing drugs (or not). Why would I be impressed if someone on EPO/hgh/testosterone ran unnaturally fast for their body type? They cheated! Maybe they can wear roller blades next time? Ultimately you are stealing a Boston Marathon spot from someone if that was the case. If tested, a positive would result in a DQ and a multi-year ban from the sport. In ultra running you'd have a lifetime ban from races like Western States 100 for that.
That being said I'm sure many a social media influencers are on all sorts of illegal things. I don't know why people believe what they see on social media these days...there are so many layers of facades....it's mostly surface level fluff!
It's like being "successful in business" when one got a bunch of money from their parents to burn and cheated on their taxes. Do we celebrate insider trading and how people make it big in financial markets doing that because of their " personal investment savvy"?
Disclaimer: I don't know the guy and I'm not saying he's on anything. I don't know anything about his background or his business/athletic history. I'm just explaining why some runners on LetsRun (who compete clean under WADA rules) might not take kindly to any person's times/performances if they happened to be on PEDs.
Some like Nick Bare running a 2:48 marathon is the equivalent of someone like Sage Canaday being able to bench 400+lbs. No offense but Sage could consume all the roids and beef in the world and he won't come anywhere near that kind of strength, PEDs or not. Nick Bare is a true alpha male.
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