Natalie Cook cruises insane workout

Most of the posters claim that this workout is right in line with her 5k. Your insinuation is that isnot true. So if the workout is real, you are stating that she will race faster than her PR. Glad to know. She is a nice girl who has no reason to lie. I agree with you that she is in 15 minute shape.

Same old story guys want to be delusional about Young phenoms

Don't know how many ridiculous threads there were about all these young runners that were going to break and smash every record by having huge PRS.... And none of them happened

She's a really good runner and she seems like a cool person but she's not going to improve by 25 seconds in a month

She ran 1525 in ideal conditions being pulled along for 90% of the race... It was an impressive workout but nothing that other runners with similar times couldn't do... Especially because she doesn't really have any big races that she has to worry about...

Otherrunners who are getting ready for professional races or college championships have to do multiple big races in the future and they're not going to do crazy workouts... A young runner who really has no competition and no big races ahead can be a little more bold

If you can run 5 minute mile pace for 3.1 miles. You can run 5 minute mile pace for 4 miles if you add a little bit of rest into the equation. It's just basic physics. Not sure why people wouldn't get that

some people crush workouts like this or go faster than race pace. But when you are talking about high school kids, it's not close to a given. I have had several kids, especially underclassmen, who can barely run 800s at 5k pace. In fact, sometimes not even 5k cross country pace.

1. It's not physics.

2. Go run 4 x mile at your 5000m track PR pace with 60 second rests and get back to us.

It is physics! You obviously don't understand science or u would realize that everything boils down to physics at some point...

She ran 3.1 miles at 4:58 pace

Now she ran 4 miles at 4:59 Pace with a minute rest between each mile

With 3 minutes of rest!

So really she just ran 4 miles in 23 minutes

I think the 3.1 miles in 1525 is more impressive!

It's the same exact thing! Obviously if you add in rest you can run farther for a longer period of time than you could if you don't rest

You can argue about how much rest someone would need or how much rest is equivalent to a constant race Pace but

Bottom line when you add rest into the factor anybody can run farther for longer

It's basic physics! Basic science! Clearly you don't understand what those things are!

No, guys, Ezrun is right, that's why all of the best coaches have doctorates in physics. That's also why every top physics program in the nation requires classes in exercise studies, because how else are you gonna learn physics? It's self evident that if you disagree with this random poster on whether or not this workout is impressive, you obviously just don't have a grasp on basic science.

Just cuz you're too much of caveman to understand the body works by the balancing of chemical gradients... And chemicals are composed of physical forces!

Anyway when the body rests it rebalances its supply of oxygen and lactic acid and muscles recover and they break down the lactic acid that has built up

So anytime you add in rest, you get recovery and the ability to prolong physical activity

I mean sorry that you lives in a Fantasyland and just wants to talk about Jesus and the Easter Bunny and all the other fairy tales you've been spoon-fed

Maybe you should write a letter to Santa Claus and he could explain it to you

Ever noticed that after a race the athletes always stop to rest... And then they move on with their life

Again not sure what you don't understand but if you can run 3.1 miles at a certain pace then if you add in rest you can run 4 miles at the same pace...

And given that these are 1,600 it's actually more like she ran 3.1 miles at 4:58 pace but then ran 4 miles at 503 pace with 3 minutes of rest... Which kind of makes sense if you understood science

So you could run 4 x 1600 m at 5k pace with 10 seconds rest? What about 1 second rest? Or 1 nsec rest? Oh, the amount of rest matters? What amount of rest does physics say?

Dude if you bother to read what I said I already said that you could debate on how much rest makes it impressive and all that

I'm just saying it's an obvious point that if you add in rest you can run further at the same Pace you can run without rest

Again I don't get what you can't understand she's already shown she can run 3.1 miles at 4:58 pace

So not sure why you would be so blown away that she can run 4 miles at 503 pace with 3 minutes of rest

Obviously the amount of rest matters but I'm just saying it pretty much makes sense that she could do those times I mean they are equivalents...

Anyway let's see what her next race time is and we'll see who's right! You're saying she's 25 seconds faster than her previous best. I'm saying at most a few seconds faster

Let's see what her next race time is and we'll see who knows what they're talking about!

So, would you be impressed if she ran 2 x 3200 m @ 5:03 pace with 3 minutes rest in between? How about if she ran 6000 m @ 5:03 pace, took a 3 minute rest and then ran a lap at 5:03 pace? I think the reason the people are impressed is because there's no single formula that says N x 1600 m with M minutes rest = 5k pace that applies to all athletes (because it's not *just* physics, any more than it's *just* math).

You do realize we are made up of atoms right? Unless you can show that there's some magic energy that makes up people than it is just physics!

I guess most people don't realize because they don't know that we are made up of atoms! But we have the history of every experiment done by science saying that everything on Earth including human beings are made up of atoms which follow the laws of physics!

You're right there's no exact formula just like there's no exact way to predict the weather because these are complex systems that can't be predicted because of uncertainty and chaos theory and the butterfly effect and all that

But like I said the only way we will be shown is by her next races and I think the workout is maybe a few seconds faster than her 1525 and other people seem to think it's a huge improvement so her next race will tell us who is right

You sound like an undergrad who just took quantum for the first time and thinks they're hot stuff. You can answer "it's just physics" to anything, but doing physics is not practical in most cases, and for most things fundamental physics won't actually get you anywhere. Including this case. Which you know. Which is why people are telling you you're an a-hole.

It's also why other sciences exist and people make a lot of money pursuing them. And why most physicists who have lived in the real world (like myself) don't talk disparagingly about other sciences. Stop steering into the arrogant know-it-all stereotype. It doesn't do you or anyone else any good.

Atoms!?! Wow! You took 8th grade chemistry. Atoms are not "physics". Physics is a set of mathematical equations that describe the world around us. And, since you say there is no equation to convert a workout to race, then clearly it is NOT just physics.

p.s. atoms are, in a way, just magic energy held together by Couloumbic interactions between even smaller particles that are held together by things like the strong force.

You gave him credit for undergrad quantum, which is far more advanced than I gave him credit for. I'm thinking more like 8th grade chemistry. But, otherwise, I (as a fellow physicist) agree whole-heartedly with this post.

I bet you just one person using multiple accounts to try to make yourself feel better

The basic point I'm making is that if you add rest into the equation it's simple physics that you can run farther at the same running pace

So when I say it's just physics I say it's basic physics or basic science that if you add rest to any running performance you can obviously increase the distance

Again you have a runner who ran 458 for 3.1 miles with no rest

So it's not remarkable that you can run 4 miles at 503 Pace with 3 minutes of rest

In that sense it is basic physics and basic science

I think you're the a-hole because you're obviously posting under multiple names to try to make yourself look good when you are arguing against someone who is giving you accurate information!

1... And as I said I guarantee that her future times for the rest of the season are no more than a couple of seconds better than her PBS of 1525 and 944

If she better either of those times by 10 seconds then you are obviously right but I guarantee that doesn't happen and I guarantee you're nowhere to be found when she runs 9:40-3200... And then anyone who says that it's right in line with what you would expect is going to be labeled a hater

And further your understanding of science is juvenile

Meteorology is based on physics but there are no exact equations to figure out what the weather will be like a week from now or a month from now

That doesn't mean the statement saying that it's just physics when talking about meteorology is not an important thing to keep in mind

Our most basic understanding of the natural world comes from the field of physics and it is important to every branch of science

So the fact that you are attacking the statement that it is just physics that she can obviously run father with rest shows that you are immature and just desperate for a hype train to follow and a fantasy... She's a great young 19-year-old runner but sorry to say there are other runners just as impressive and it's not like everything she does is godly...