If there is no CRT in these textbooks like lefties claim, then why complain that the state has chosen to buy different books?
Read my post above yours. This is a trial run, of sorts. They're trying to gut the social studies curriculum of the State.
I read your post. This isn’t a trial run of anything. It’s a state saying we want to teach math without extra bs. How can the left say “wel show us an example in these books” when they themselves don’t know what’s in the books?
I am not going to quote your post; it is a huge word salad with no real substance.
Those of us with 2 or more brain cells don’t care where Pythagorean came from but we do care that it be taught in schools. Idc if a kid is black or white, they can either learn the concept of they can’t. Teach them the math and leave them alone.
take your racial bs with you back to your trailer.
This is what this CRT and math thing is really about. Black kids in low income neighborhoods have for decade been scoring horribly on math testing. There are efforts underway to try to address this disparity by making changes in how math is taught. One issue is the emphasis on the development of different math concepts as being Eurocentric with emphasis on the Greeks (Pythagorean theorem, etc.) and European mathematicians in the development of mathematics. Another issue is the emphasis on test scores, timed tests for learning math facts (multiplication tables) and an overall emphasis on individual metrics in learning over working in groups and recognizing that people will learn math at very different rates but can all get to the same point if everyone has the time they need to master concepts. The anti-CRT crusade is just a pretext to stop these efforts dead in their tracks because they threaten to actually do some good and improve math instruction for black kids. Math achievement (or lack thereof) has always been a highly effective tool for tracking students ("tracking" meaning sorting them out to decide who will go to college and who will learn a trade etc.) because tests like the ACT, SAT and how far a student gets in math in HS are easy to use to sort kids to decide who goes to top colleges and who goes to JUCO etc. Same for gifted programs in K-12 which rely on a heavy amount of math testing to decide who goes into the gifted program. Right now, due to the very poor test scores amongst black children in low income neighborhoods, math is a very effective tool to keep these kids out of higher education and to ensure that they will have no choice but to fill entry level jobs upon graduation. If reforms to math curriculum are successful at improving math achievement among black students, then that will allow them to compete with white students for spots in college and for high paying jobs.
Multiplication and division, and even subtraction to an extent, are nothing more than constructs of white supremacy. Such notions have been used to oppress African-Americans since the early 1600s. So-called "math teachers," paid by the government, have been instrumental in maintaining systemic racist Euro-Amero math doctrine in America's schools. The numbers, as they say, don't add up to anything except white privilege.
Did you just ask how someone could ask for an example of something they aren't aware of? Isn't that the very point of asking for examples?
My point is that the left also doesn’t know what’s in the books. They just see desantis doing something and need to complain. It’s old.
And I go back to my original question: if there is no CRT in the books then why do you care if different books are used?
This may shock you, but some people actual approach a discussion without already having made up their mind about it and actually ask questions in earnest instead of in a rhetorical attempt to drive a point home. I would like some examples of the CRT in these books that were turned away. It is certainly possible that there were some, and I'd like to know before making up my mind.
I don't know what bothers me more. The fact that I can't wrap my head around the first problem, the fact that problem number two doesn't include "player" or "private eye" as an option, or the fact that I graduated long before CRT and can't solve either problem.
My point is that the left also doesn’t know what’s in the books. They just see desantis doing something and need to complain. It’s old.
And I go back to my original question: if there is no CRT in the books then why do you care if different books are used?
This may shock you, but some people actual approach a discussion without already having made up their mind about it and actually ask questions in earnest instead of in a rhetorical attempt to drive a point home. I would like some examples of the CRT in these books that were turned away. It is certainly possible that there were some, and I'd like to know before making up my mind.
You made up your mind before the story broke.
No, pretty sure people like you made up their minds first, hence all the bellyaching
I don't know what bothers me more. The fact that I can't wrap my head around the first problem, the fact that problem number two doesn't include "player" or "private eye" as an option, or the fact that I graduated long before CRT and can't solve either problem.
It's not a bad point. Those CRT math questions are culturally loaded. How is a lame-ass white kid supposed to know the difference between a bookie and a drug dealer? White kids can only answer questions about yacht clubs and skiing vacations and stuff like that.
This may shock you, but some people actual approach a discussion without already having made up their mind about it and actually ask questions in earnest instead of in a rhetorical attempt to drive a point home. I would like some examples of the CRT in these books that were turned away. It is certainly possible that there were some, and I'd like to know before making up my mind.
You made up your mind before the story broke.
No, pretty sure people like you made up their minds first, hence all the bellyaching
I think it's a problem when you view asking for an example as "bellyaching". The country would be better off with people asking questions.
And I go back to my original question: if there is no CRT in the books then why do you care if different books are used?
This is actually a really good question.
What if the actual content, quality, and presentation of the newly selected books is much worse than the ones (incorrectly) identified as containing "CRT"? We get bad books with no CRT instead of good books with no CRT.
What if the newly selected books are actually published by cronies of the politicians that are all going crazy about fake CRT, and people are getting kickbacks for banning the previous books (which also contained no CRT)?
Those are two examples, but I'm sure people could come up with others.
I don't know what bothers me more. The fact that I can't wrap my head around the first problem, the fact that problem number two doesn't include "player" or "private eye" as an option, or the fact that I graduated long before CRT and can't solve either problem.
This is a doctored photo (or edited example), and the original was a worksheet, not a textbook.
This is what this CRT and math thing is really about. Black kids in low income neighborhoods have for decade been scoring horribly on math testing. There are efforts underway to try to address this disparity by making changes in how math is taught. One issue is the emphasis on the development of different math concepts as being Eurocentric with emphasis on the Greeks (Pythagorean theorem, etc.) and European mathematicians in the development of mathematics. Another issue is the emphasis on test scores, timed tests for learning math facts (multiplication tables) and an overall emphasis on individual metrics in learning over working in groups and recognizing that people will learn math at very different rates but can all get to the same point if everyone has the time they need to master concepts. The anti-CRT crusade is just a pretext to stop these efforts dead in their tracks because they threaten to actually do some good and improve math instruction for black kids. Math achievement (or lack thereof) has always been a highly effective tool for tracking students ("tracking" meaning sorting them out to decide who will go to college and who will learn a trade etc.) because tests like the ACT, SAT and how far a student gets in math in HS are easy to use to sort kids to decide who goes to top colleges and who goes to JUCO etc. Same for gifted programs in K-12 which rely on a heavy amount of math testing to decide who goes into the gifted program. Right now, due to the very poor test scores amongst black children in low income neighborhoods, math is a very effective tool to keep these kids out of higher education and to ensure that they will have no choice but to fill entry level jobs upon graduation. If reforms to math curriculum are successful at improving math achievement among black students, then that will allow them to compete with white students for spots in college and for high paying jobs.
So you're saying (in your words), that since black people can't comprehend math as well as other races (again, based on YOUR logic) that the standards should be lowered in order to inflate their grades? And that anyone who opposes this is a racist? Got it. I also didn't know that one's ability to understand the Pythagorean theorem had to do with the color of one's skin. Thank you for sharing, I feel like a much better person now.
Where does Power and Oppression show up in our math experiences? ● Who holds power in a mathematical classroom? ● Is there a place for power and authority in the math classroom? ● Who gets to say if an answer is right? ● What is the process for verifying the truth? ● Who is Smart? Who is not Smart? ● Can you recognize and name oppressive mathematical practices in your experience? ● Why/how does data-driven processes prevent liberation?
Wow. Thank you for the link. Interesting. Seattle Public Schools K-12 Math Ethnic Studies Framework. I did not know about this.
I don't know what bothers me more. The fact that I can't wrap my head around the first problem, the fact that problem number two doesn't include "player" or "private eye" as an option, or the fact that I graduated long before CRT and can't solve either problem.
This "example" already has responses to it.
1. It's doctored.
2. There is a real worksheet and all it is is basic history questions. If you want to argue that we don't need this history in a math class, your assumption is that it's purely a math class. What's the objective of the worksheet? Discover the history by solving the math problems? Maybe it's a hybrid class that combines subjects and allows students to discover things by solving other types of problems.
Exactly. As a teacher, this is all I’ve ever seen. Sorry they aren’t all Jim, John, and Joe.
Ok, I found a link to one of the rejected books, which combines completely unrelated questions about Maya Angelou with algebra questions. 1) this is bonkers stupid. 2) this isn’t CRT
If you read a little deeper you will see that this didn't come from a textbook, but from a website, "Teachers Pay Teachers". People have been made about these questions for a while (because they are, in fact, pretty awful).
But, they don't appear in a textbook.
And, hey, just a thought here, but if a textbook did contain something objectionable, why not ask for the objectionable content to be removed instead of burning the whole thing down?
This is what this CRT and math thing is really about. Black kids in low income neighborhoods have for decade been scoring horribly on math testing. There are efforts underway to try to address this disparity by making changes in how math is taught. One issue is the emphasis on the development of different math concepts as being Eurocentric with emphasis on the Greeks (Pythagorean theorem, etc.) and European mathematicians in the development of mathematics. Another issue is the emphasis on test scores, timed tests for learning math facts (multiplication tables) and an overall emphasis on individual metrics in learning over working in groups and recognizing that people will learn math at very different rates but can all get to the same point if everyone has the time they need to master concepts. The anti-CRT crusade is just a pretext to stop these efforts dead in their tracks because they threaten to actually do some good and improve math instruction for black kids. Math achievement (or lack thereof) has always been a highly effective tool for tracking students ("tracking" meaning sorting them out to decide who will go to college and who will learn a trade etc.) because tests like the ACT, SAT and how far a student gets in math in HS are easy to use to sort kids to decide who goes to top colleges and who goes to JUCO etc. Same for gifted programs in K-12 which rely on a heavy amount of math testing to decide who goes into the gifted program. Right now, due to the very poor test scores amongst black children in low income neighborhoods, math is a very effective tool to keep these kids out of higher education and to ensure that they will have no choice but to fill entry level jobs upon graduation. If reforms to math curriculum are successful at improving math achievement among black students, then that will allow them to compete with white students for spots in college and for high paying jobs.
lol. no. math is objective as it gets. if whatever they do makes it easier for black kids, it will be even easier for those who are already ahead. if they need more time to learn, well that is an issue with social advancement. Which is a very real issue in our school systems. everybody moves along to the next step whenever a new school year starts. its a huge problem.