Not to mention the auto eject system that sometimes dosent work and the casing flies around the turret de-capitating the crew.
This is true. Russians no matter their narrative they never told the truth about their mechanical mishaps. And their mechanical/logistical failures will be talked about for decades to come by senior generals around the globe. Two earth worms could have come up with a better plan to defeat Ukraine in 5 days tops. Putin, I spit in his general direction. I realize from thousands of miles away that I have no chance of hitting him. But sense he started this war I may as well get my two cents in. Puck Putin and Puck Russia, soldiers, civilians and the rotten mess of all you. Why don't you all do the world a favor and take a long walk off of a short pier. I can assure you that the rest of the world would appreciate your sacrifice and sing your praises 'til hell won't have it. You're a bunch of dump azz female dogs that have 11 frickng time zones in your country. You can't make that work out properly so you need to add a western time zone to balance things out? What is the major malfunction of your vodka swilling society? Seriously, there's something wrong with your population.
People believe stupid things when their media is all propaganda no matter what country you're in.
This is true. Russians no matter their narrative they never told the truth about their mechanical mishaps. And their mechanical/logistical failures will be talked about for decades to come by senior generals around the globe. Two earth worms could have come up with a better plan to defeat Ukraine in 5 days tops. Putin, I spit in his general direction. I realize from thousands of miles away that I have no chance of hitting him. But sense he started this war I may as well get my two cents in. Puck Putin and Puck Russia, soldiers, civilians and the rotten mess of all you. Why don't you all do the world a favor and take a long walk off of a short pier. I can assure you that the rest of the world would appreciate your sacrifice and sing your praises 'til hell won't have it. You're a bunch of dump azz female dogs that have 11 frickng time zones in your country. You can't make that work out properly so you need to add a western time zone to balance things out? What is the major malfunction of your vodka swilling society? Seriously, there's something wrong with your population.
People believe stupid things when their media is all propaganda no matter what country you're in.
This one is for you "Adult" my crazy messed up comrade.
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Thread is about tanks. If you were a 17 or 18 year old fighting in Ukraine, it doesn't matter which side, Russia or Ukraine, would you rather by a rifleman/machine gunner in an infantry unit on the ground or would you rather be in a mechanized unit? If you were a 22 or 23 year old lieutenant., same question, infantry on the ground or in a mechanized unit?
I failed to mention in my last post, toe poppers and bouncing betties cannot do damage to a mechanized unit, except damage the tracks, bouncing betty.
I am going to ignore the gist of your text. Have you noticed M.S.M. are no longer saying day in and day out, Russia is losing. Now M.S.M. are saying Russians are mean. I really want this to stop, don't you poster? The only way this stops is for Zelenskyy to surrender.
The only way this stops is for Putin to surrender.
Russia, weeks ago gave Ukraine an opportunity to surrender to men in mechanized units and Russian infantrymen. U.S., acting as real time Forward Observers for Ukrainian military and the number of weapons given to Ukraine, it is sound tactics by Russian military to soften up the battlefield with navy battleship guns, artillery and bombing missions. Russia is doing text book tactics which are sound and reasonable from Russian perspective.
You do believe in preserving life don't you poster? That actor/clown/comedian, President Zelenskyy should surrender. You do want to save Ukrainian lives, don't you?
Yeah right, Boris. Fleeing Kyiv because you failed to occupy it, and sending your cowardly army north through Belarus and the all the way round to the east is "sound tactics." Not even Sputnik and RT spin that garbage. Get with the story, before they fire you.
Ukrainians don't want to surrender to the scumbag Russian invaders. Just because you are a coward yourself, doesn't mean there aren't people who stand up and fight for their countries.
Russia, weeks ago gave Ukraine an opportunity to surrender to men in mechanized units and Russian infantrymen. U.S., acting as real time Forward Observers for Ukrainian military and the number of weapons given to Ukraine, it is sound tactics by Russian military to soften up the battlefield with navy battleship guns, artillery and bombing missions. Russia is doing text book tactics which are sound and reasonable from Russian perspective.
You do believe in preserving life don't you poster? That actor/clown/comedian, President Zelenskyy should surrender. You do want to save Ukrainian lives, don't you?
Yeah right, Boris. Fleeing Kyiv because you failed to occupy it, and sending your cowardly army north through Belarus and the all the way round to the east is "sound tactics." Not even Sputnik and RT spin that garbage. Get with the story, before they fire you.
Ukrainians don't want to surrender to the scumbag Russian invaders. Just because you are a coward yourself, doesn't mean there aren't people who stand up and fight for their countries.
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Yeah right, Boris. Fleeing Kyiv because you failed to occupy it, and sending your cowardly army north through Belarus and the all the way round to the east is "sound tactics." Not even Sputnik and RT spin that garbage. Get with the story, before they fire you.
Ukrainians don't want to surrender to the scumbag Russian invaders. Just because you are a coward yourself, doesn't mean there aren't people who stand up and fight for their countries.
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Personal attacks I see. You know your argument is weak if you believe you must attack me personally. Do you know you have been brainwashed or do you believe you just happen to agree with television personalities on major news tv shows?
If Russian generals did not adapt to conditions on the ground, you would post that Russian generals are too rigid and inflexible. Russian generals are doing what I said was Plan B over five weeks ago if Ukraine did not surrender: artillery fire and bombing missions.
Poster, while you're arguing with me, have you come up with a plan for Ukraine to defeat Russia? I don't like seeing Ukrainians dying but you do know, Russia will smash Ukraine one map grid at a time until Ukraine surrenders.
Since Ukraine/N.A.T.O./U.S. are not smashing Russia one map grid at a time, are you not Whistling Past the Graveyard?
This is a thread about tanks poster. Would you rather be a rifleman &/or a machine gunner infantryman running around Ukraine or would you prefer to be in a mechanized unit?
This is true. Russians no matter their narrative they never told the truth about their mechanical mishaps. And their mechanical/logistical failures will be talked about for decades to come by senior generals around the globe. Two earth worms could have come up with a better plan to defeat Ukraine in 5 days tops. Putin, I spit in his general direction. I realize from thousands of miles away that I have no chance of hitting him. But sense he started this war I may as well get my two cents in. Puck Putin and Puck Russia, soldiers, civilians and the rotten mess of all you. Why don't you all do the world a favor and take a long walk off of a short pier. I can assure you that the rest of the world would appreciate your sacrifice and sing your praises 'til hell won't have it. You're a bunch of dump azz female dogs that have 11 frickng time zones in your country. You can't make that work out properly so you need to add a western time zone to balance things out? What is the major malfunction of your vodka swilling society? Seriously, there's something wrong with your population.
People believe stupid things when their media is all propaganda no matter what country you're in.
Yes, I know you're right. I was just a little pizzed off and felt like venting. However I'l not take back a word I said. Long walk/short pier.Thank you very much and good night and I hope some Russians get some bombs dropped on their homes. Why? Just because. The Russians are dropping bombs on Ukraine homes, hopefully the Ukraine Air Force will sometime soon be able to pay Russia a visit. Remember Mariupol? What if the Ukraine could do to the same thing to the Kremlin? It's my deepest wish and desire that Ukraine could pull this off, but it's something like 500 miles or so from Kiev. So sending ground forces wouldn't be practical, unless they were willing to sacrifice their air forces. And as of today they are being very careful with their aircraft. The Russians started this war with a 10/1 advantage. Where it stands today I can't speak to.
Thread is about tanks. If you were a 17 or 18 year old fighting in Ukraine, it doesn't matter which side, Russia or Ukraine, would you rather by a rifleman/machine gunner in an infantry unit on the ground or would you rather be in a mechanized unit? If you were a 22 or 23 year old lieutenant., same question, infantry on the ground or in a mechanized unit?
I failed to mention in my last post, toe poppers and bouncing betties cannot do damage to a mechanized unit, except damage the tracks, bouncing betty.
I am going to ignore the gist of your text. Have you noticed M.S.M. are no longer saying day in and day out, Russia is losing. Now M.S.M. are saying Russians are mean. I really want this to stop, don't you poster? The only way this stops is for Zelenskyy to surrender.
Without western boots on the ground or air power Russia can camp out in Ukraine forever if they are willing to endlessly bleed men and materiel.
People believe stupid things when their media is all propaganda no matter what country you're in.
Yes, I know you're right. I was just a little pizzed off and felt like venting. However I'l not take back a word I said. Long walk/short pier.Thank you very much and good night and I hope some Russians get some bombs dropped on their homes. Why? Just because. The Russians are dropping bombs on Ukraine homes, hopefully the Ukraine Air Force will sometime soon be able to pay Russia a visit. Remember Mariupol? What if the Ukraine could do to the same thing to the Kremlin? It's my deepest wish and desire that Ukraine could pull this off, but it's something like 500 miles or so from Kiev. So sending ground forces wouldn't be practical, unless they were willing to sacrifice their air forces. And as of today they are being very careful with their aircraft. The Russians started this war with a 10/1 advantage. Where it stands today I can't speak to.
Encore. Grassrunner, you started this. I can't stop.
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Russia, weeks ago gave Ukraine an opportunity to surrender to men in mechanized units and Russian infantrymen. U.S., acting as real time Forward Observers for Ukrainian military and the number of weapons given to Ukraine, it is sound tactics by Russian military to soften up the battlefield with navy battleship guns, artillery and bombing missions. Russia is doing text book tactics which are sound and reasonable from Russian perspective.
You do believe in preserving life don't you poster? That actor/clown/comedian, President Zelenskyy should surrender. You do want to save Ukrainian lives, don't you?
The only kills Russia is getting is on civilians as they retreat in disgrace. A losing military committing subhuman acts is a tale as old a time. Yet you defend them. Telling.
People believe stupid things when their media is all propaganda no matter what country you're in.
The Russians are dropping bombs on Ukraine homes, hopefully the Ukraine Air Force will sometime soon be able to pay Russia a visit. Remember Mariupol? What if the Ukraine could do to the same thing to the Kremlin? It's my deepest wish and desire that Ukraine could pull this off...
You realise, do you not, that Russian nuclear weapons would be used in response, no? Be careful what you wish for.
Tanks are death traps when fired at with a javelin....correct.
You know what else is a death trap? Being fired at from a Javelin, AT4, or really ANY weapon system as an infantrymen on foot.
A Humvee is a death trap when fired upon by a Javelin
A bradley/stryker is even more of a death trap because a Javelin AND other tanks can easily destroy them.
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The whole point of having a tank is too bring up a big weapon system onto the battlefield with armor to help neutralize enemy positions (ranging from light vehicles such as humvees to even infantry soldier themselves) so the infantry doesnt have to do it all exposed.
Ask an infantry battalion...would you rather attack a heavily defended and fortified entrenched enemy with or without tank support? Don't have to be that smart to know the answer.
Tanks also are really good at destroying other tanks. If the enemy has tanks, you don't because you think they are obsolete, and your infantry gets into a direct action fight vs them its.
1. Infantry and Javelins vs Infantry and Javelins and TANKS
Which side would you choose?
Tanks are not perfect weapons and they have weaknesses, but so does every weapon system (apaches are also sitting ducks for handheld missiles.....but damn if infantry doesnt have their butt pucker when an Apache enters the airspace hunting for them)
I haven't watched CNN in weeks. Four and five weeks ago CNN thought it was so cool to tell the world, 20-something hip chicks, 40 year old housewives and 65 year old grandmas were making I.E.D.s. I.E.D.s meant to kill and disable Russians. Russians treat everyone in Ukraine as either a uniformed armed combatant or a guerilla armed combatant. If I turn on CNN today, are there still features on the lady I.E.D. bomb makers?
In regard to the deaths, I want the dying to stop. One man can stop the dying, President Zelenskyy. You know Putin is not going to surrender to Zelenskyy.
Instead of crying about how awful military combat is, tell your Congressperson to cut off military aid to Ukraine.
Thread is about tanks. If you were a 17 or 18 year old fighting in Ukraine, it doesn't matter which side, Russia or Ukraine, would you rather by a rifleman/machine gunner in an infantry unit on the ground or would you rather be in a mechanized unit? If you were a 22 or 23 year old lieutenant., same question, infantry on the ground or in a mechanized unit?
I failed to mention in my last post, toe poppers and bouncing betties cannot do damage to a mechanized unit, except damage the tracks, bouncing betty.
I am going to ignore the gist of your text. Have you noticed M.S.M. are no longer saying day in and day out, Russia is losing. Now M.S.M. are saying Russians are mean. I really want this to stop, don't you poster? The only way this stops is for Zelenskyy to surrender.
Anyone who says the Ukrainians are winning is a fool. Without western boots on the ground or air power Russia can camp out in Ukraine forever if they want to.
I was on American tanks and the only thing we feared was air power. Nowadays with these fire and forget anti-tank missiles which can kill from 2500 meters the game has changed. Hopefully, the Pentagon is paying attention in Ukraine and working on neutralizing these missiles and the swarms of cheap drones that offer complete real time battlefield visibility. As well as Ukraine is doing a competent military operating with these tools would be absolutely devastating.
I'm an American and feel just like you do. But we who have the eyes to see/realize that war is ever changing/evolving. Fortunately or Un, the generals that prosecute these wars (no matter the side) are following the plans of the last war. It's so frustrating to see Ukraine begging for war material and Sleepy Joe won't procure them fast enough and can't get anyone to talk to him when Barack Obama is in the room. Did you guys see how awkward that was? I actually felt bad for the man. I'll let you guys chime in if you want to. But in your opinion who was the best Statesmen/President in your life time or of your knowledge of American history. And they don't necessarily have to be the same two guys. Who you got?
Tanks are death traps when fired at with a javelin....correct.
You know what else is a death trap? Being fired at from a Javelin, AT4, or really ANY weapon system as an infantrymen on foot.
A Humvee is a death trap when fired upon by a Javelin
A bradley/stryker is even more of a death trap because a Javelin AND other tanks can easily destroy them.
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The whole point of having a tank is too bring up a big weapon system onto the battlefield with armor to help neutralize enemy positions (ranging from light vehicles such as humvees to even infantry soldier themselves) so the infantry doesnt have to do it all exposed.
Ask an infantry battalion...would you rather attack a heavily defended and fortified entrenched enemy with or without tank support? Don't have to be that smart to know the answer.
Tanks also are really good at destroying other tanks. If the enemy has tanks, you don't because you think they are obsolete, and your infantry gets into a direct action fight vs them its.
1. Infantry and Javelins vs Infantry and Javelins and TANKS
Which side would you choose?
Tanks are not perfect weapons and they have weaknesses, but so does every weapon system (apaches are also sitting ducks for handheld missiles.....but damn if infantry doesnt have their butt pucker when an Apache enters the airspace hunting for them)
Javelins are cheaper than tanks.
The US military hasn't fought anything resembling a modern army since a least the 1950s.
Tanks are death traps when fired at with a javelin....correct.
You know what else is a death trap? Being fired at from a Javelin, AT4, or really ANY weapon system as an infantrymen on foot.
A Humvee is a death trap when fired upon by a Javelin
A bradley/stryker is even more of a death trap because a Javelin AND other tanks can easily destroy them.
-----
The whole point of having a tank is too bring up a big weapon system onto the battlefield with armor to help neutralize enemy positions (ranging from light vehicles such as humvees to even infantry soldier themselves) so the infantry doesnt have to do it all exposed.
Ask an infantry battalion...would you rather attack a heavily defended and fortified entrenched enemy with or without tank support? Don't have to be that smart to know the answer.
Tanks also are really good at destroying other tanks. If the enemy has tanks, you don't because you think they are obsolete, and your infantry gets into a direct action fight vs them its.
1. Infantry and Javelins vs Infantry and Javelins and TANKS
Which side would you choose?
Tanks are not perfect weapons and they have weaknesses, but so does every weapon system (apaches are also sitting ducks for handheld missiles.....but damn if infantry doesnt have their butt pucker when an Apache enters the airspace hunting for them)
Javelins are cheaper than tanks.
The US military hasn't fought anything resembling a modern army since a least the 1950s.
Iraq in 1990 was a modern army. This is total misinformation. The republican guard had t72s.
Tanks are death traps when fired at with a javelin....correct.
You know what else is a death trap? Being fired at from a Javelin, AT4, or really ANY weapon system as an infantrymen on foot.
A Humvee is a death trap when fired upon by a Javelin
A bradley/stryker is even more of a death trap because a Javelin AND other tanks can easily destroy them.
-----
The whole point of having a tank is too bring up a big weapon system onto the battlefield with armor to help neutralize enemy positions (ranging from light vehicles such as humvees to even infantry soldier themselves) so the infantry doesnt have to do it all exposed.
Ask an infantry battalion...would you rather attack a heavily defended and fortified entrenched enemy with or without tank support? Don't have to be that smart to know the answer.
Tanks also are really good at destroying other tanks. If the enemy has tanks, you don't because you think they are obsolete, and your infantry gets into a direct action fight vs them its.
1. Infantry and Javelins vs Infantry and Javelins and TANKS
Which side would you choose?
Tanks are not perfect weapons and they have weaknesses, but so does every weapon system (apaches are also sitting ducks for handheld missiles.....but damn if infantry doesnt have their butt pucker when an Apache enters the airspace hunting for them)
Javelins are cheaper than tanks.
The US military hasn't fought anything resembling a modern army since a least the 1950s.
That's not entirely true. We have fought something resembling modern armies. Iraq twice. They had the latest and greatest of Russian weapons. And we dispatched them in short order. Saddam parked his Mig fighter aircraft next to mosques hoping we'd destroy them along with the mosque to get the muslim world up are azz. What did we do? We took the explosives out of our bombs and replaced it with several hundred pounds of concrete. We had a new way of guiding dumb bombs to be smart bombs by attaching a GPS guided tail onto them, their name was JDAM's. So we found the Migs and smashed them to pieces while the Muslims were doing their morning prayers. No collateral damage was done to people or property. But Saddam lost most of his Migs that day. Saddam was a great chess player too. Yea ha ha!!!