I was reading this list and thought Credence should be in there! And there they are! Good list. Moody Blues?
Thanks!
Nights in White Satin....only Moody Blues I like.
All those bands I mentioned have a huge gang of great tunes. That to me is the true barometer when it comes to greatness, could you sustain it over time with years of great stuff.
I like the song "Brandy" by Looking Glass but what else did they do? "96 Tear" ? and the Mysterians then what?
I own all The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, hell we are talking 50 CD's there. So many great songs.
Wait, Donovan, Steppenwolf and The Animals all have a “huge gang of great tunes,” but no mention of Hendrix, Bowie, or Springsteen? Back to the drawing board, I say.
Unrelated, the poster who nominated Sympathy for the Devil is definitely on to something. I’ve thought that the first minute of that song is the perfect opening sixty seconds of a rock song. Y’all know me though, I have to go with Like a Rolling Stone, personally.
I'm a guitarist. In my judgment Clapton is a quite ordinary professional guitar player. Never have understood all the worship of the man. Can think of dozens and dozens of better players.
I am a music historian have heard them all going back to the old blues cats like Lonnie Johnson, T Bone Walker, then there is Charley Christian, Django Rhinehart, Wes Montgomery, have heard them all actually. There aren't dozen and dozens of better players and Eric Clapton, there is Hendrix, now we can debate a few others but it ends there. We will end up with Clapton somewhere in that the greatest ever conversation, there is a reason for that respect. Google....the greatest rock guitarists....I guarantee you won't read dozens and dozens of names before you read.....Eric Clapton. Personally I put him right there with Duane Allman, SRV, Jeff Beck.
All those bands I mentioned have a huge gang of great tunes. That to me is the true barometer when it comes to greatness, could you sustain it over time with years of great stuff.
I like the song "Brandy" by Looking Glass but what else did they do? "96 Tear" ? and the Mysterians then what?
I own all The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, hell we are talking 50 CD's there. So many great songs.
Wait, Donovan, Steppenwolf and The Animals all have a “huge gang of great tunes,” but no mention of Hendrix, Bowie, or Springsteen? Back to the drawing board, I say.
Unrelated, the poster who nominated Sympathy for the Devil is definitely on to something. I’ve thought that the first minute of that song is the perfect opening sixty seconds of a rock song. Y’all know me though, I have to go with Like a Rolling Stone, personally.
Hell, where are Van Morrison, John Couger Mellencamp, Elton John, so back to the drawing board for you.
Sympathy For The Devil is without question one of the iconic songs in music history. Not a debate.
Then we have all these guys nobody really know about.....
Kelly Joe Phelps at the Artiste Sanctuary Concert Series at St. Jude's in Cedar City, UT05/12/12http://www.kellyjoephelps.net/It's as thin as the edge of a r...
Wait, Donovan, Steppenwolf and The Animals all have a “huge gang of great tunes,” but no mention of Hendrix, Bowie, or Springsteen? Back to the drawing board, I say.
Unrelated, the poster who nominated Sympathy for the Devil is definitely on to something. I’ve thought that the first minute of that song is the perfect opening sixty seconds of a rock song. Y’all know me though, I have to go with Like a Rolling Stone, personally.
Hell, where are Van Morrison, John Couger Mellencamp, Elton John, so back to the drawing board for you.
Sympathy For The Devil is without question one of the iconic songs in music history. Not a debate.
Then we have all these guys nobody really know about.....
I’m guilty for engaging here, but this is what you wrote:
DinoZ wrote: Thinking top post 1959 rock songs.... Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Janis Joplin, The Animals, Steppenwolf, Donovan, Cream. CSN&Y, ZZ Top, The Eagles, CCR, would have the bulk of it.
….whereas I was merely listing 3 artists who render your list garbage.
Take a look at my post in the what-age-are-you thread and you’ll see I regard Elton and Van very, very highly. John Mellencamp on the other hand is garbage.
I’m guilty for engaging here, but this is what you wrote:
DinoZ wrote: Thinking top post 1959 rock songs.... Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, The Doors, Grateful Dead, The Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Janis Joplin, The Animals, Steppenwolf, Donovan, Cream. CSN&Y, ZZ Top, The Eagles, CCR, would have the bulk of it.
….whereas I was merely listing 3 artists who render your list garbage.
Take a look at my post in the what-age-are-you thread and you’ll see I regard Elton and Van very, very highly. John Mellencamp on the other hand is garbage.
So you don't know music, not a big deal. I bet ya think Country music sucks....right?
I like the best of all genres, but my two go to songs are “1970” by the Stooges and the live version of “Listen to the Lion” on Van’s live album “It’s too Late to Stop Now”
Music snobs always rush to put Bob Dylan on this kind of list. Great lyricist? Yes. Wrote some songs that other played well? Yes. You can like Bob’s authenticity, but RnR needs a lot more than that screechy voice and mediocre instrumentalism to be greatest of all time
Music snobs always rush to put Bob Dylan on this kind of list. Great lyricist? Yes. Wrote some songs that other played well? Yes. You can like Bob’s authenticity, but RnR needs a lot more than that screechy voice and mediocre instrumentalism to be greatest of all time
As we know this is a classic, the iconic House of the Rising Sun, first recorded in 1933 by Appaclachian Clarence Ashley, it has been played by others like Lead Belly, The Callahan Brothers, The Animals, Waylon Jennings etc.
“House of the Risin' Sun" by Bob DylanListen to Bob Dylan: https://bobdylan.lnk.to/listenYDSubscribe to the Bob Dylan YouTube channel: https://bobdylan.lnk.t...
If you can't appreciate Dylan's voice (I think it's great) you probably don't like the old blues singers like Mississippi John Hurt, Robert Wilkins, Skip James, Lightnin' Hopkins, Bukka White (BB king's uncle), etc. I've always liked a voice with a bit of an edge. You can like your Celine Dion's and Johnny Mathis's. I find them boring.
I'm a guitarist. In my judgment Clapton is a quite ordinary professional guitar player. Never have understood all the worship of the man. Can think of dozens and dozens of better players.
I am a music historian have heard them all going back to the old blues cats like Lonnie Johnson, T Bone Walker, then there is Charley Christian, Django Rhinehart, Wes Montgomery, have heard them all actually. There aren't dozen and dozens of better players and Eric Clapton, there is Hendrix, now we can debate a few others but it ends there. We will end up with Clapton somewhere in that the greatest ever conversation, there is a reason for that respect. Google....the greatest rock guitarists....I guarantee you won't read dozens and dozens of names before you read.....Eric Clapton. Personally I put him right there with Duane Allman, SRV, Jeff Beck.
He was not in the same league as Duane Allman or SRV, since you out those examples. Nor Dickie Betts for that matter.
I don't care what nonsense you can find on Google. Clapton is just an ordinary pro. Not innovative, nothing special technically, ripped off a lot of good songs written by others. Lots of other famous guitarists are better and even more not so famous guitarists are better.
I am a music historian have heard them all going back to the old blues cats like Lonnie Johnson, T Bone Walker, then there is Charley Christian, Django Rhinehart, Wes Montgomery, have heard them all actually. There aren't dozen and dozens of better players and Eric Clapton, there is Hendrix, now we can debate a few others but it ends there. We will end up with Clapton somewhere in that the greatest ever conversation, there is a reason for that respect. Google....the greatest rock guitarists....I guarantee you won't read dozens and dozens of names before you read.....Eric Clapton. Personally I put him right there with Duane Allman, SRV, Jeff Beck.
He was not in the same league as Duane Allman or SRV, since you out those examples. Nor Dickie Betts for that matter.
I don't care what nonsense you can find on Google. Clapton is just an ordinary pro. Not innovative, nothing special technically, ripped off a lot of good songs written by others. Lots of other famous guitarists are better and even more not so famous guitarists are better.
This took all of 5 seconds....
Why is Eric Clapton considered one of the best guitarists of all time? 28 Answers Best David Tynan Answered 6 years ago For all the reasons outlined in the other answers but essentially he is an outstanding musician. His phrasing is incredible. He's rooted in blues, it's where he pulls his influence from but he's equally at home with country and Jazz, 2 incredibly technical and difficult styles to master. He has incredible tone which he achieves with minimal effects. His tone literally comes out of his hands. His Phrasing and touch are unlike anything anyone else can do. Also he seems like a genuinely nice person, with a troubled personal past which he channels into his music, and people react to that sort of honesty of playing
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Dude, you can believe what you like I disagree with you as does everyone else.
Music snobs always rush to put Bob Dylan on this kind of list. Great lyricist? Yes. Wrote some songs that other played well? Yes. You can like Bob’s authenticity, but RnR needs a lot more than that screechy voice and mediocre instrumentalism to be greatest of all time
Mediocre instrumentals?? Have you listened to Blonde on Blonde or Highway 61?? Legendary sessions musicians. Do you the difference between a great voice and a great singer??
If you can't appreciate Dylan's voice (I think it's great) you probably don't like the old blues singers like Mississippi John Hurt, Robert Wilkins, Skip James, Lightnin' Hopkins, Bukka White (BB king's uncle), etc. I've always liked a voice with a bit of an edge. You can like your Celine Dion's and Johnny Mathis's. I find them boring.
You got it now add Blind Willie Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Charley Patton, gotta have that grit.
Then you've got your Vai's and Satriani's that sort of skirt on the edge of mainstream music that are not even in the same universe as Clapton.
Yeah, this is where I land. IMO, technical ability should be the top criteria for ranking the "best" guitarists. Kurt Cobain made a lot of amazing guitar-based music, but most of it is pretty darn easy to play. I think it makes more sense to just call him a great artist (which is higher praise) rather than a great guitarist. Same with Clapton, although he's better at guitar than Cobain. He might be an all-time great artist/songmaker, but there are many virtuosos who are objectively better at playing the instrument.
Look at this video that old man Steve Vai just put out. Outrageous technical proficiency and it sounds BOSS. Eric Clapton in his prime couldn't touch this level of skill and there are many other guitarists outside the mainstream who are also a tier above many of the classic "greats" in terms of pure ability. They might not be able to write music that resonates with as many people, but they can play everything that Clapton can and more.
Enjoy!s"Teeth of the Hydra" from Steve Vai's new album "Inviolate"Listen to "Inviolate": https://smarturl.it/steve_vaiOrder "Inviolate" Vinyl/Merch: http://v...
While an incredible guitarist, and deserving of all received (and to be received accolades), there were much better rock and roll songs, and have been much better since. As at least one other poster has mentioned, Bruce Springsteen.
First of all “Cocaine” is a cover and the original is definitely better than Clapton’s cover version. Clapton is one of the greats but there are plenty of other rock songs better than Cocaine
Those are three awesome songs/renditions. I’m not taking anything away from EC.
Best RnR song? I’m not sure the answer, but feel it should be elite in all phases: front man belting out the notes, notable guitar parts, great rhythm, cool lyrics, proper verses/chorus structure, etc. EC is just not great enough as a singer for this to rate #1, even if the other components are sufficient.
Songs I would consider:
Satisfaction, Rolling Stones
Gimme Shelter, Rolling Stones
Whole Lotta Love, Zeppelin
Smells Like Teen Spirit, Nirvana
Won’t Get Fooled Again, The Who
Panama, VH
Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix
Panama isn't even the best Van Halen song. Just about every track on Fair Warning is better.
Given the criterion set forth above, I'd say a winning candidate is
Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band performing "Born To Run" from Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London '75Listen to Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band:...
J.J. Cale’s music is unique, it really isn’t rock. Won’t get fooled again is a worthy contender. I can’t get no satisfaction tops many all time best lists. But Born to be Wild is the greatest rock song.
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