'Staring' at women is now illegal on the London Metro

Local sales of sunglasses skyrocket!

Fortunately London has put out a PSA so that people can understand what is considered acceptable.

Golly gee whiz I wonder who is doing most of leering??

Your last paragraph ... if that's how it's handled then that's how it's handled, amiright?

Not against this 'law', but your argument there says this behavior doesn't need to be codified.

The claim made in the title of this thread - "Staring' at women is now illegal on the London Metro" - is not accurate.

Staring at someone (of either sex) in a way that is sexually aggressive, bothersome and intimidating on London transport is one of a list of several commonplace behaviors that Transport for London has targeted in a campaign that aims to reduce sexual harassment by bringing greater public attention to the many "normalized" acts that constitute it. But because most of the sexual harassment that occurs in public places like the tube, buses and waiting areas is committed by men and boys against women and girls, the campaign is focused on making taking public transport more comfortable for female passengers by drawing attention to unpleasant, sometimes criminal acts that females tend to be subjected to by males. From the press release announcing the project:

The campaign highlights various forms of unwanted sexual behaviour that can take place on public transport and aims to send a strong message to offenders that sexual harassment is not tolerated on TfL's services.

The campaign aims to challenge the normalisation and dismissal of this behaviour as 'something that happens' to women and girls on public transport and in other public spaces, making it clear that it is never acceptable and that the strongest possible action will always be taken.

The following behaviours are highlighted by the campaign as common examples of sexual harassment, which are not tolerated on public transport:

1. Cat Calling: Making unsolicited remarks of a sexual nature about someone
2. Exposing: Revealing intimate body parts [aka flashing or indecent exposure]
3. Cyber-flashing: Sending or showing sexual content without consent
4. Pressing: Rubbing against someone on purpose [aka frottage or humping]
5. Touching: Touching someone inappropriately [aka groping]
6. Staring: Intrusive staring of a sexual nature
7. Upskirting: Taking photos under someone's clothing

Behaviors 2, 4, 5 are already illegal and criminal under existing laws against indecent exposure and sexual assault. 3 and 7 are illegal under newer UK laws that prohibit the use electronic communications and recording devices in certain ways.

But AFAIK, 1 and 6 are not illegal under UK law. Rather, the TfL wants to make it known that they are unacceptable and "not tolerated" on London public transport.

At any rate, "staring at women" on the tube or other kinds of transport in London certainly not been made "illegal."

tfl.gov.uk

New campaign launches to stamp out sexual harassment on public transport

https://facebook.com/transportforlondon

New campaign launches to stamp out sexual harassment on public transport

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standard.co.uk

TfL gets tough on sexual harassment with launch of new crackdown

Joe Talora

A new campaign was launched on Wednesday in an effort to tackle sexual harassment on London’s public transport network.

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Its not "being codified", its covered by existing laws, both legislative and common law. It clarifies the existing law, based on evidence from recorded crimes that its closely related to more violent incidents. The idea is to make it safer for women to travel on the London Underground due to there being a number of murders of women recently in the London area. Staring inappropriately can be an indication of serious risk, so this makes people more aware of that. It doesn't make staring illegal per se, thats what we have rules of evidence and justice for. Its only when it forms part of a course of criminal conduct which causes harassment.

I'd also like to point out that we have things like CCTV and other people on the Underground, since that doesn't appear to be obvious to some other posters.

Do you really have that low standards of behaviour in the States that this needs such detailed explanation? I've seen this video of a woman walking in New York and the comments that are shouted at her and the number of men that follow her are unbelievable.

Hope the link works.

10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman - YouTube

Yes, but what if youre a muslim immigrant?

I’m a male who is very frequently “checked out” by women almost anywhere I go. At Starbucks, bars, when I randomly pass by women they make and even try to hold eye contact which often becomes uncomfortable - unless of course they are of equally attractive stature (not usually the case). It’s very comforting to know that if I ever deign to visit London again and this happens on the Tube, I will have recourse to hold them criminally accountable. I’m grateful to the London mayor for criminalizing women’s irresistible urge to stare upon my face and physique.

"Liberalism is the virus?"

I have to agree, as a Keynesian socialist (you know, the economic approach that gave us unprecedented economic growth last year, as employed by Biden?)

But here's the real irrational "virus"  -- shredding classified documents and flushing them down the White House toilet. Every 5-year old knows you're gonna clog that sucker up. And get your ugly fat butt tossed in jail (here's hoping!)

Yes this is accurate because the only difference between flirting and harassment under the exact same actions and words is whether the other party is attracted to you.

LA

9 story office building

casual Friday I wore my Trump hat and it offended some ‘Karen’ so much that she contacted the building manager asking them to invalidate my company’s lease

Well that's not true is it:

fullfact.org

Sadiq Khan’s former law firm did consult on the defence of someone convicted in relation to 9/11 - Full Fact

Back when he was a human rights lawyer, Sadiq Khan’s then-law firm consulted on the defence man who was later convicted of conspiring with the 9/11 attackers.

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The metro system mentioned has cameras in every car. So if someone falsely accuses you of staring with mischievous intent it can be refuted or charges thrown out. This is only supposed to be for intense staring or stalking and not just incidental eye contact.

The poster is non-specific. I could be lustfully staring at a hamburger and it would be illegal.

Thank God this is a well defined being set that in no way leaves any room open for interpretation or abuse of power. Now we need to get the thought police involved to root out those thinking sexual harassing thoughts.

I know it's indoors and at night but would sunglasses help??

Beta males have always tried to enact laws that disadvantage Alpha males. Betas resent Alphas. That's just the way nature has worked since the Dawn of Man when the first Alpha power punched the first Beta.

As societies like America become more and more Beta-ish, there will eventually be push back by females on societies' rules and norms because the supply of Alpha males will become significantly lower than female demand for Alphas.

It’s another example of a crime in which an infraction is defined not by actual rules, but by the feelings of the victim. I mean, what is staring? It could be almost anything. It depends entirely on what the woman thinks. What is the rule? Nobody actually knows, and that’s the point.

I'd love to buy one of your tee shirts. Liberalism is imprisoning all of us, and destroying freedom.