Katelyn Tuohy INJURED!!!!!!???

Tarpit Trap wrote:

Their success in XC doesn't mean it's not a hope you stay healthy program. They have signed some monster classes and have crazy depth due to those classes. Henes can afford to burn through some kids. Especially the in state female talent that foolishly commits every year. That's the NC State philosophy.

looks like that a really sad and vicious motive behind the "family vibe" philosophy

fghrunner wrote:

FastTuohy wrote:

She did, as did Kelsey Chmiel. But both are still shown on roster.

Kelsey Chmiel definitely didn't graduate lol. She's only been there for 5 semesters (she's mid "junior" year), that would be insanely early to graduate, would mean she took essentially double the course load every semester since freshman year. She's only one grade above Tuohy, who is a true sophomore

If students do a full Running Start program starting their junior year of high school they can graduate high school with both a high school diploma and a two year college degree, thus starting college at 18 as a junior. My daughter is a 10th grader and is planning on doing this. Starting next year she will only take classes at the community college, no more high school classes.

Not in STEM fields.

Slo-Jo wrote:

fghrunner wrote:

Kelsey Chmiel definitely didn't graduate lol. She's only been there for 5 semesters (she's mid "junior" year), that would be insanely early to graduate, would mean she took essentially double the course load every semester since freshman year. She's only one grade above Tuohy, who is a true sophomore

She was a top student in high school, so she likely went into college with a lot of credit under her belt. Kids that take a lot of AP courses can go into college as mid-sophomores.

LOL, where is that happening?

My son had a 36 on his ACT and graduated high school with 15 credits but only 3 were able to be used toward his EE degree.

At most high schools in suburban NY there is a whole menu of AP courses, college credit for high school courses (sponsored by comm coll, SUNY or syracuse), actual college courses with on campus attendance. My non athlete daughter was only ranked about 35 of 200 in her class but she still got college credit for psych101/02, sociology 101/02 and physics1 from college courses at her high school, then English 2 courses, history 2 courses, studio art 1 course , and environmental science 1 course from the AP program. After graduation she took the clep tests (AP for adults) to cover 101/02 and 201/02 french. With this head start, she did 1 yr at comm coll and then enrolled as a Jr at a nescac div3 liberal arts college. Basically saved 2 years tuition and 1 yr time.

Now the challenge with this idea, is that many of the top schools (including ivies) will not accept these classes for actual college credit, but will only allow you to enroll in a higher level course. So you may get to take more interesting upper level courses, but not save any time or money.

NC state does accept these classes for college credit.

Yes but most STEM majors have a strict curriculum of about 120 technical credits so most of those electives count for nothing.

"daughter was only ranked about 35 of 200 in her class"

Daughter likely could have been ranked #1 at most other U.S. high schools, which is why class rank is not all that relevant.

astro wrote:

One of the top high school runners of all time is going to be discussed on a running message board. Sorry. Same with other sports..

Not one of the top. The top. And the gap between her and second is probably bigger than the gap between 2nd and 10th.

XC, yes..

Cain, Decker, Mu though were better in track. 5k? Hutchison has record.

nib nib wrote:

XC, yes..

Cain, Decker, Mu though were better in track. 5k? Hutchison has record.

sigh....and now the thread moves to another topic.....btw her name is "Hutchins"

Yes that was autocorrect.

CrispyChicken wrote:

"daughter was only ranked about 35 of 200 in her class"

Daughter likely could have been ranked #1 at most other U.S. high schools, which is why class rank is not all that relevant.

Public high schools in NY and North Jersey are pretty amazing. My point of her rank was that she was by no means the most advanced AP kid in her class. The top kids take AP calc, physics, chem plus the easier ones and would shoot for various AP scholar awards for completing 10-15 AP classes. My kid was street smart by cherry picking some of the easier APs, and her guidance counselor convinced her to take the French course. I don't think she would be #1 at most schools, as her test scores are only sub elite by LRC standards, but she would be a good comp for Chmiel or Tuohy at similarly strong NY public high school.

joe owner wrote:

My son had a 36 on his ACT and graduated high school with 15 credits but only 3 were able to be used toward his EE degree.

Congrats an LRC elite worthy ACT! Your son is probably at a top tech university with a less than generous AP credit acceptance, which is the norm. As I pointed out, many schools give 0 credit for the APs, you just get to enroll in a higher level course. Ie. AP calc 2, enroll in calc 3 but no credits.

The community college, however, accepts the whole boatload, and then with associates degree and transfer to liberal arts college, the whole boatload plus specific cc courses transfer through. BA in science is also less rigorous and more flexible than a BS at Tech U. So kid ends up with associates degree in comp sci, ba major physics minor studio art, done in 3 years. Now if she wanted EE, she would have to enroll in a master's program like the 3/2 or 4/2 at Columbia, but she is already employable now with her BA in the meantime.

Anyway, point was actually Chmiel at NC State. Pre-vet isn't a major, it's just a pack of courses taken alongside the actual major, which is quite often bio or chem. I can check this out more, but it wouldn't shock me if she had college credit in calculus, English, history, chem and bio that transferred straight through at NC state. She would then graduate early with BS in biology and completion of pre-vet requirements.

You pedophole creepers are disgusting.

Lusting after teenage girls. Get a life!

You coaches are the worst. Talking about how you want to massage her feet after a run and whacking off to her. You guys are sick.

I can't even figure out what this thread is about now. So is Tuohy injured or not?

runnerexpert wrote:

Slo-Jo wrote:

She was a top student in high school, so she likely went into college with a lot of credit under her belt. Kids that take a lot of AP courses can go into college as mid-sophomores.

LOL, where is that happening?

At pretty much any university that recognizes AP credit.

joe owner wrote:

Yes but most STEM majors have a strict curriculum of about 120 technical credits so most of those electives count for nothing.

Apparently some of them did count for Kelsey Chmiel. How else could she graduate so early?

No. He is attending an average state school because he went for free. He declined some elite college offers because they expected us to pay $300K due to our large nest egg. But your description is accurate. Some classes pushed him into a higher classes in math and physics but EE has no room for additional electives so he will graduate with more credits than necessary. They would have counted toward most majors though.