3:35 old guy here to your answer any question. Don’t overly expect a serious reply.

1991premilechamp wrote:

Ask my anything. Running, life, money, cars, women, training, just don’t expect a serious reply.

Fire away.

Would you consider covering your nipples with raw honey to attract 🐝 ?

At what age did you first sprint F.A.T. sub-55 400m. If not F.A.T. 400m, only first leg on relay counts. Relay leg other than first leg is like a down hill race. At what age did you first sprint F.A.T. sub-50 400m? Looking back, do you wish you would have focused more on speed development as a teenager?

randomist wrote:

How did you learn to read and write working barely three and half minutes?

I watched Monty Python as a kid. The Black Knight taught me all I know.

Fire away.[/quote]

Would you consider covering your nipples with raw honey to attract 🐝 ?[/quote]

Finally! A sign that life exists in the world today. What an awesome question. Just plain awesome.

Now, in college the legendary Michael Byrd of Hog fame taught me all about food ( primarily whip cream ) and body parts. He extorted the value of placement, techniques and tools to use for extraction, and appropriate music to play during said activities.

But Honey? A complex carbohydrate ( which burns slower than the simple carbs found in whip cream), what a brilliant idea!! Where were you when I was in college? . Your information may have prevented me from being dropped on that big hill on the 14 miler when Reina, Falcon and Coop put the hammer down.

Thank you for taking the time to engage with the masses. I’m enjoying this thread.

Back in your college days I think you ran in more than a few races, especially relays, against my old HS rival, Mike Stahr (well not really a rival because I was like 0/20 against him). Do you have any recollections of Mike?

600yd/600m man wrote:

At what age did you first sprint F.A.T. sub-55 400m. If not F.A.T. 400m, only first leg on relay counts. Relay leg other than first leg is like a down hill race. At what age did you first sprint F.A.T. sub-50 400m? Looking back, do you wish you would have focused more on speed development as a teenager?

Good question. First off I am so old, FAT was rare in high school. We had old men with stop watched for timing!

Probably 18 to break 55. I was slow before then. Then when I was 19 I ran a 49 point relay ( with my best Freind timing it, on a downhill track and the wind was behind me the entire way ) but it was after a 2k steeple the day before, and two 800m races that same day, so my legs were not fresh.

We did focus a bit on speed development from 16 to 19 as the head track coach in our club was Brent McFarlane and he was Canada’s national hurdle coach at the time. He had ALL of us doing sprint drills. Even tall skinny geeks like me had to do them. And a great point, work on speed! A skips, B skips, short sprints, box jumping ( with a weight vest on for me) lunges etc all turned me from a slow 3k guy to a faster ( and of course better looking ) 8 / 15 guy.

Because everyone knows 8/15 guys are the best looking.

Was this a 1200 in a dmr or the full mile?

Is your boy Justin Trudeau actually Fidel Castro's son?

That's a great post.

Wise Old Man wrote:

Thank you for taking the time to engage with the masses. I’m enjoying this thread.

Back in your college days I think you ran in more than a few races, especially relays, against my old HS rival, Mike Stahr (well not really a rival because I was like 0/20 against him). Do you have any recollections of Mike?

Thanks. First off if you raced Mike 20 times you were a rival and a competitor of his. You laced them up and raced the man! That makes you a rival. ( Plus this logic must be true otherwise I can’t say I was a rival of John Walker :)

I first raced Mike at the Keebler mile in Chicago along with Irish, Cook, Carlotti and Marsala.

Mike proceeded to beat us all like bongo drums at a late night hippy party. He flat out just ran away from us. Then I raced him a few times in college. He beat me in a very notable DMR anchor leg at Penn that I have actually erased from my memory so don’t ask any questions about it. Mike had a ton of talent ( I saw him run 3:37 to win a big race in Sweden beating a number of notables).

Not entirely sure why he retired or never made Worlds or Olympic team. He had the head and the talent but keep in mind with Spivey and Scott et all they weren’t just giving spots away. I don’t converse with him much, but I do with Gags ( my boss when I coached for Nike) and Miles Irish, whom keep me informed of Mike’s well being and beard length.

A great guy.

llort_vbo wrote:

Was this a 1200 in a dmr or the full mile?

It was obviously a marathon. I love the marathon.

That’s all I ran.

And what is a “ full” mile.

Is there an “empty” mile?

Johny Mac did accuse me of running “empty” miles the one time I ran with a girl on the women’s team back in college. But the next morning Michael Byrd strongly debated the “ empty “ part of Mac’s equation when we all ran the first 4 miles of our Sunday long run and discussed relevant happenings ..

1991premilechamp wrote:

It was obviously a marathon. I love the marathon.

That’s all I ran.

Happy birthday again today! I was an Arkansas Marathon champion (a marathon that started in Malvern, somewhat near Hot Springs Village). So, you and I are are really very similar kind of runners.

must be a slow news day, doug. for both of us--you for starting a thread, me for responding.

i don't care about the past--what i'd really like to see is a cage match between you and the 4:02 guy who also started a thread answering questions recently...

love,

cush

p.s. have you ever $#!+ in a compression sock?

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Is your boy Justin Trudeau actually Fidel Castro's son?

I don’t understand all the talk about Justin’s mom.

Sure she went to Cuba.

Sure she saw Fidel.

But it was to discuss the possibilities of pipelines.

To be more specific, the actual details of laying pipe.

That was it.

And please don’t bring up Mick Jagger. All he did was tune her guitar is what my sources said. They only said it with a smirk because I had half a lune moon in my mouth at the time.

I was an Arkansas Marathon champion (a marathon that started in Malvern, somewhat near Hot Springs Village). [/quote]

Ah yes. Well actually Arkansas has no “ marathon” champions. We all were, or wanted to be 8/15 guys.

Nobody even discussed the marathon. It was taboo. If one of us did run one we tried to hide it otherwise we would be humiliated. Just like “ nobody talks about Bruno” or nobody mentions “ Valdemore” by name, any self respecting Arkansas runner never ever mentions the marathon *

(* Deena of course exempt from this archaic rule, and being ultra cool it is justified).

1991premilechamp wrote:

Ask my anything. Running, life, money, cars, women, training, just don’t expect a serious reply.

Fire away.

Why didn't your parents name you Wayne or Gordie?

Thanks for the memories. I’m from southern Westchester, NY and we turned out some notable runners over the years. Masback grew up a 1/2 mile from me and was the local goat, later to be eclipsed in local lore by Vince Draddy and Greg Herzog. Vince was my favorite. He was a deep thinker. Vince and Greg raced the HS mile at Millrose in the greatest race I ever witnessed live. Then came Mike and eclipsed them all at the HS level. I was never within 10 seconds of Mike in the 1600/mile, BUT our school had a much stronger team and so if spotted enough distance we could prevail in 4x800s and DMRs against him. The relays were what we cared about above all else!! I think in 1988 Mike managed 4th at the Olympic trials in the 800 and he got injured right before the 1992 trials. We always rooted for him because he was from our block so to speak. Me, I went to an elite D1 school, but quit freshman year. Still an otherwise happy and fulfilling life and have remained an avid fan and hobby jogger. Thanks so much!!

Every runner (800m to Marathon), sprinter, jumper and thrower who has reached elite status, I ask 400m or 440yd. personal best from middle school and high school. Some act embarrassed when I ask. No judgement. I'm just curious. Thanks.

P.S. Women prefer 400m/800m guys.

Happy Bday stud. I've really enjoyed scrolling through this thread.

You or fellow Canadian and hog Graham Hood in a mile in both of your primes? You were before my time, but he was not and I spent more college races I'd care to relive watching him close out 1500s (or 1600s @ Penn DMR) from well behind. Dude was a freak. I did get the better of him on the golf course a few times though :-)