What? There may be a $4 drug that is 90% effective against Covid-19, why in the hell aren't we talking about fluvoxamine?

fisky wrote:

I would suggest...

Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop

Quercetin: 2 capsules/day

Zinc

Melatonin

Nigella Sativa

Gargle with recommended mouthwash

Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray

Pepcid AC (famotidine)

While posters here debate the efficacy of fluvoxamine, the bottom line is that your friend can't get it. You can't just walk into an ER and say, "I got Covid... gimme some Fluvoxamine." Finding a doctor who is willing to prescribe this drug for off-label use will be nearly impossible and your friend needs therapeutics NOW.

Everything on the above list, with the possible exception of Nigella Sativa, is available at Walgreens, CVC, and Walmart right now. Your friend could be starting treatment this afternoon.

I didn't have Pepcid AC and Nigella Sativa on hand and I didn't want to go out to get it so I ordered it with same day delivery on Amazon.

I hate to say there is a massive government conspiracy under way to suppress cheap forms of early treatment that could save countless lives but that is exactly what appears to be going on. Whether with this, hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, etc. potential treatments that had promising potential were crushed without fully being examined. Maybe not all of these were fully effective but there is some solid evidence there was. And the majority of the studies & articles I saw trashing these drugs intentionally used them in ways not recommended by their proponents, specifically too late in the infection to matter. This should be the scandal of the century. Now we are pushing boosters and vaccines for children in a manner that is wildly inappropriate. If you think that is tin foil hat status remember FDA members resigned because the Biden administration was trying to push for boosters when there was nothing to support the safety and efficacy of doing so.

The interview Joe Rogan did with Dr. Robert Malone is a much watch to show just how much the US government has been corrupted in this process.

Tin Foil Hats Prevail wrote:

. . . Whether with this, hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, etc. potential treatments that had promising potential were crushed without fully being examined. . . .

If by "crushed", you mean available to anyone who could find a doctor to prescribe it for them, you hit the nail on the head!

I take all covid vaccines asap, plus flu, and I am so glad I got Pneumovax a few years ago. Vax me up! Makes me strong!

Just don't try to vaccinate me for Boogie Fever. I think it's going around.

One potential reason it’s not “widely” circulated is fluvoxamine is an antidepressant. Antidepressants come with serious mental side effects. The fact is covid isn’t dangerous enough to make widely prescribing antidepressants to everyone worth it. You have to balance risk/reward. The approved covid vaccines have virtually zero side effects so it’s worth using it widely even if they don’t work as well as we expected.

The Lily Hammer wrote:

Tin Foil Hats Prevail wrote:

. . . Whether with this, hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, etc. potential treatments that had promising potential were crushed without fully being examined. . . .

If by "crushed", you mean available to anyone who could find a doctor to prescribe it for them, you hit the nail on the head!

With those doctors in danger of sanction depending on jurisdiction, also depending on "availability" (with engineered shortages like monoclonals to FL or TX, or ivermectin/fluvoxamine in general); depending on the customer even hearing about them amongst the fake news, disinformation about "horse paste" and "injecting bleach";while Big Tech censors any mention of alternatives; while "GET THE JAB" is blared 24/7 through every pore of communications every minute on the minute....

Yeah, "crushed" is about right. Like a quail egg under an Abrams tank.

A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.

The intellectual arrogance required to think you could open your laptop and find a therapy for your buddy's covid. That's what doctors and public health professionals are for. Shows what you think of their expertise, and how you overvalue your intelligence in domains you have no clue about.

fisky wrote:

fisky wrote:

I would suggest...

Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop

Quercetin: 2 capsules/day

Zinc

Melatonin

Nigella Sativa

Gargle with recommended mouthwash

Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray

Pepcid AC (famotidine)

While posters here debate the efficacy of fluvoxamine, the bottom line is that your friend can't get it. You can't just walk into an ER and say, "I got Covid... gimme some Fluvoxamine." Finding a doctor who is willing to prescribe this drug for off-label use will be nearly impossible and your friend needs therapeutics NOW.

Everything on the above list, with the possible exception of Nigella Sativa, is available at Walgreens, CVC, and Walmart right now. Your friend could be starting treatment this afternoon.

I didn't have Pepcid AC and Nigella Sativa on hand and I didn't want to go out to get it so I ordered it with same day delivery on Amazon.

Don't forget K2 with the D3, as well (in general) magnesium of good quality (not oxide) and black elderberry might also mitigate.

"The terrain is everything; the germ is nothing." -- Claude Bernard

The physical condition of the body is everything; the virus is nothing.

yiuk wrote:

A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.

The intellectual arrogance required to think you could open your laptop and find a therapy for your buddy's covid. That's what doctors and public health professionals are for. Shows what you think of their expertise, and how you overvalue your intelligence in domains you have no clue about.

THIS^ X 1 million.

I mean, after he saves his buddy, they could do with some help on the Fukushima cleanup. I'm sure he and google can set them all straight and have that repurposed as a park by next week.

Dear old fool:

I and many other have spent our lives studying infectious disease. Nobody needs spitballers and armchair scientists/physicians making suggestions regarding what to do here.

No doubt you had an illustrious career as a [whatever]. Rest assured, I would not come telling you how things work in [whatever] unless I also had some actual credentials.

fisky wrote:

rojo wrote:

A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.

Rojo, since your friend might not have access to a doctor who would write an off-label prescription for fluvoxamine, you should look into OTC supplements. There are several with almost no risk and some potential for help.

I would suggest...

Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop

Quercetin: 2 capsules/day

Zinc

Melatonin

Nigella Sativa

Gargle with recommended mouthwash

Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray

Pepcid AC (famotidine)

Here is the source for these recommendations including dosage, except for Famotidine. It is the second link below. The referenced study used 80mg/day, which would be 4 Pepcid AC tabs/day.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdfhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7299656/

You forgot the hairdryer up the nostrils

If it were about health then none of this would have ever happened.

But since this is about pharmaceutical profits, we must have vaccines.

Supralapsarian wrote:

If it were about health then none of this would have ever happened.

But since this is about pharmaceutical profits, we must have vaccines.

Most of these posts have to be russian trolls. There cannot possibly be so many Americans so dumb to believe there is some government wide conspiracy to {checks notes} enrich drug companies?

Its such a bizarre belief I can't even grasp how a non-troll farm dweller could possibly reach such a conclusion.

Conspiracy theories and gossip have some ridiculous grasp on the minds of humans. I cannot understand the evolutionary basis for this however. The two human traits are actually synergistic, but in fact should cancel each other out. The percentage of conspiracies which can be kept under cover becomes dramatically lower as the number of people involved goes up. The desire of people to tell others of a secret they hold with a number of people means that one of the participants will eventually tell someone else. Conspiracy theories impugn entire industries which employ millions of honorable people who would not stand for the horrible actions that the theorists so gleefully hold dear. Certainly there must be some conspiracies which have not been uncovered, but the internet with all of its avenues for anonymous whistleblowing further limits successful large scale conspiracies. The sheer size of the pharma industry which relies so heavily on collaborations makes keeping a conspiracy hidden only vanishingly possible. On TV and in the minds of adherents, conspiracy theories are protected by a legion of horrible secret agents and ninjas who kill off the whistleblowers while they are on the phone to a newspaper editor. However, QAnon's popularity shows how easily humans are convinced of impossible things when they are told that "big [redacted]" doesn't want you know. Guess what, click bait and troll farmers know all too well this frailty of the human psyche.

Covidiocy wrote:

Honestly, I’ve been talking about this drug since at least June. But 2600mbe wanted to assure you at the time that the jabs were much safer and efficacious.

As soon as the first quality fluvox. data came out I was all over it.

Sadly, showing a true positive effect takes time and effort. Many people jump on a 'miracle drug' each time a small, crappy study shows an eye-popping effect, only to pretend they knew better when more careful and higher quality studies show zilch.

The NIH is watching fluvoxamine:

Generally, trying random drugs outside of a clinical trial or self-medicating with insane polypharmacy regimens does more harm than good. Shocker that this needs to be spelled out, but happy to do it.

yiuk wrote:

A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.

The intellectual arrogance required to think you could open your laptop and find a therapy for your buddy's covid. That's what doctors and public health professionals are for. Shows what you think of their expertise, and how you overvalue your intelligence in domains you have no clue about.

I please guilty to be arrogant.

But it's just like when Fauci told me not to get a mask. I thought to myself, "Why wouldn't I want a mask? How could it possibly be bad for me? It could only help."

So who was right then, me or Fauci?