Katelyn Tuohy breaks u20 3000m record

Huh? I am reasonably sure Mu is doing fine. But realistically how much attention do any Olympic athletes get outside of Olympic years? They fall off the radar by and large, and the 800 is not exactly a high profile event. I'm not the sad soul whining because someone merely pointed out that a college runner set a junior US record. Seems like she is doing fine as well. As to the future, who knows?

Jake from the Olympics wrote:

It is amazing how little attention Mu gets in comparison to Tuohy even though they were in the same class.

Attention from whom? Mu returns about 5 times more results in a Google search. She is a media darling who has two Olympic Gold medals in races that were viewed by hundreds of millions of people. And she earned millions of dollars from Nike when she was 19.

Katelyn Tuohy gets lots of attention on a website for distance runners in the U.S., which she deserves, since she is among the best American high school distance runners ever, now running very well as a college sophomore.

A few of you are like the parent on your kid's cross country team that overloads everyone's email and facebook and twitter gloating how great their child is every time they run a PR even though they are about the 7th best kid on the team.

So bitter. Sorry someone discussed a runner on a running site. LOLLL. You are free to start your own thread.

Jake from the Olympics wrote:

A few of you are like the parent on your kid's cross country team that overloads everyone's email and facebook and twitter gloating how great their child is every time they run a PR even though they are about the 7th best kid on the team.

I'd rather be the proud Dad who appreciates excellence in all its forms than the one who tells his daughter that her 16:30 isn't anything special and that she will never be world class.

We are free to be bitter and free to comment on any thread and post predictions about runners that you may not agree with.

The child who goes onto greatness is the one who has a parent who is humble but who encourages their child to be great. The child who has the parent telling the world that their child is better than everyone else's child, normally falters.

Sure. You may have noticed though that there are tons of threads about high school races, college races, etc where chances are no one involved will be an Olympic medalist. And so what? I dont expect any US distance runner to medal. And I could not care less. I would rather discuss topics without the corrupt stench. Professionally the sport is a joyless mess. Right up your alley.

I don't think there are any of the latter types on this thread. No one thinks Tuohy is the best in the world. Many of us think she is on track to be great.

I have a hunch about your parents.

astro wrote:

Sure. You may have noticed though that there are tons of threads about high school races, college races, etc where chances are no one involved will be an Olympic medalist. And so what? I dont expect any US distance runner to medal. And I could not care less. I would rather discuss topics without the corrupt stench. Professionally the sport is a joyless mess. Right up your alley.

I would agree - the only running that is worth it is recreational - and by that I include kids' sport. I have given up on professional sport for the reasons you identify.

no doubt its going to be hard to reach the professional ranks, but heres some data to see how she stacks up to recent Olympians and their collegiate 3k PRS.

Karissa Schweizer 8:41

Alicia Monson 8:45

Elle Purrier 8:55

Elise Cranny 8:58

Heather MacLean 9:03

Cory McGee 9:10

Tuohy's 8:54 seems to be well within this mix of athletes who have succeeded at a high professional level.

collegiateathlete101 wrote:

no doubt its going to be hard to reach the professional ranks, but heres some data to see how she stacks up to recent Olympians and their collegiate 3k PRS.

Karissa Schweizer 8:41

Alicia Monson 8:45

Elle Purrier 8:55

Elise Cranny 8:58

Heather MacLean 9:03

Cory McGee 9:10

Tuohy's 8:54 seems to be well within this mix of athletes who have succeeded at a high professional level.

Nope, she doesn't have a chance since as a sophomore she has so far come up short of what these runners did (mostly as seniors).

collegiateathlete101 wrote:

no doubt its going to be hard to reach the professional ranks, but heres some data to see how she stacks up to recent Olympians and their collegiate 3k PRS.

Karissa Schweizer 8:41

Alicia Monson 8:45

Elle Purrier 8:55

Elise Cranny 8:58

Heather MacLean 9:03

Cory McGee 9:10

Tuohy's 8:54 seems to be well within this mix of athletes who have succeeded at a high professional level.

Awesome for her for sure. So...do we want to get rid of the 3000 or not? Im confused? It seems to be alive and well, until the olympics.

Yep. The responses to such an innocuous thread have been next level. "Why are you talking about a college runner, the Olympic gold medalist is faster?" Or: "Yeah, well she will never break the WR." Or: "Stop discussing a college runner setting a junior record, you should be discussing poor, neglected Athing Mu." LOLL. Classic.

Okay. We will be positive. She is a little cutie.

KT may be able to make a living as a runner, just based on reputation, personality, etc. She has a fan base. She will be paid more than some run faster. And it should be that way. More eyeballs = more money. It is like this in individual sports.

Contextisimportant wrote:

Too much too soon wrote:

Well nobody is dumb enough to compare her to Moo. One is a good college runner who would get lapped in a 3k by Hasan while the other is the best in the world.

Yeah but distance running is very different from 400 or 800m Runner especially for women. It's basically impossible for a woman to be a world-class distance Runner at 18 or 20 or even 22, while plenty of girls who are as young as 16 can have a chance to compete at the world-class level in sprints. Not sure what the youngest age is but definitely a big difference , it's not really comparable.

Off the top of my head: Tirunesh Dibaba won a WC gold at age 18 in the 5000. Mary Cain made a WC final at age 18 and 19 year-old Faith Kipyegon was 5th in that race.

I will admit that I was really surprised to see a few International runners having success at the 5K at around the age of 20.

But honestly it is still a little dubious about some of the African birth dates as there has definitely been reports of exaggerated birthdates

But anyway Katelyn Tuohy is an American distance Runner. She is an American female distance Runner. So let's compare her to the history of American running

In the history of American female running there have been way more young Runners having success at Sprint then long distances like 5K and 10K, and even the marathon

That's pretty evident by the fact that there have been like three 16 year olds have been top 20 in the USA recently Willis and Whitaker, and several others

That has never happened and almost certainly will never happen for a 10,000 M Runner. It's almost physically impossible for a girl to be as good as 25 year old females at the distance of 10000 m

Also everyone keeps betting against Tuohy and she keeps proving them wrong. She has a good chance to kill it as a professional Runner and really well with endorsements and appearance fees

Too much too soon wrote:

I always get lost in what we are trying to prove with these ongoing Letsrun arguments. World class runners almost always are world class at 19 regardless of event....

Someone who knows more than me jump in here! Is this even remotely true with distance runners?

You telling me the best American female distance Runners were all world class at the age of 19. Jenny Simpson, and some of the other recent one's like purrier?

What about some of the greatest distance runners in general Mo Farah, Beckeley, kipghoge,

is Mo Farah even a professional runner at 19? He didn't start having success till he was like 27