Hansons Marathon training

and the problem is???

Marathon man thoughts wrote:

Hansons training consist of No life. Lots of miles and jerking off every day.

keep dreaming if you think you can 5:30 pace under the hansons program.

really now wrote:

but it's ok to be continually in heavy recovery from multiple tempo run plus long run efforts? CONTRADICTION.

That wasn't the statement, you need to learn how to read.

um actually that is the statement. cumulative fatigue right? just because they don't mention your legs will be shot, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Why I waste my time answering 15 year old kids that can't find a date on a Friday night is beyond me. But here goes nothing.

CUMULATIVE FATIGUE is the ability to control how much fatigue is being distributed to the body over a period of time. It is not destroying your legs. You can do squats for an hour if you are trying to destroy your legs. The fact that you don't understand is fine. The fact that you criticize what you don't understand is unintelligent.

listen if you are going to make up pseudo-scientific bulls*it thaty's fine too. and the fact you think that everyone knows about this just shows your arrogance.

Few issues to keep in mind, frist no one system is going to work for all people but evey system is going to work for some. It should also be noted that the Kenyan runners maxout around 30k or 18 miles. While I have read Geb runs up to 32 miles at a time. So long is also likely one of these things that is diffrent for each person.

As far as training for your race, miles do not run at 10k pace pre-season and expect to run fast miles. No they run at the pace that they are going to be racing at. So there is no reason to thing people running a marathon should not do some running at there race pace.

Last from the looks of the Hansons system it keep people for getting over trained, and then over rested. No body needs 3 weeks to taper. That is a good deal of bunk and more who atempt that run A PU then a PR.

the latest issue of TFN has an article with Geb and he said one of the main things that will help him get faster and better prepared in the marathon are his long runs!

I am still intrigued by the Hanson's marathon training program. Anybody using the program for an upcoming Spring Marathon? How is the training going?

I am up in the air on this, but my best marathon was run when I did one 20 miler with my older sister at 9 minute pace - everything else I did consisted of hard, quality miles. I honestly don't know what I think about the overall training philosophy, but I definitely want to give this plan a try for my next marathon (whenever that will be).

Props on having an open mind.

Thought I would bump this up. Is anyone using this for a spring marathon? What type of rest is there during the workouts?

I am using the Advanced Program for an upcoming May Marathon. So far so good. I am currently in Week 8 of the program. I modified the Tuesday workouts a bit. Weeks 1-6 I worked VO2 Max. Weeks 7-12 will be Tempo based. Weeks 13-17 Strength work (MP minus 10 seconds/mile). I have been using a lot of John Kellog's workouts with the recommended rest periods for most of the "fast" stuff versus what was prescribed in the Running Times Hanson article.

Bump!

I was researching Hanson's marathon program and came across this thread from '05 - '06. The Hansons have come a long way in 5 years.

They seem to be getting about the same good results.

From what I've seen, their elite athletes go a little longer than the schedule at the start of the thread and do a few low mileage doubles. Otherwise, it's pretty straight forward. I don't think it's that different from what McMillan does, either. The long steady state runs are where it's at. Some long runs and speedier things to help on either end.

Hansons athletes keep talking about cumulative fatigue. I wonder if the Saturday/Sunday back-to-back longer runs are something their elites currently do. Is that what they're talking about? Otherwise, their schedules never look that bad.