What's up with Nico Young? Losing to Bosley, placing 9th, and being 15 seconds behind his teammate Nur isn't where I thought he would be at this point. I wouldn't say he's done poorly in his last 2 races, but he's probably going to have to step it up if he wants to be in the mix for the individual win next month.
I'm wondering wrote:
What's up with Nico Young? Losing to Bosley, placing 9th, and being 15 seconds behind his teammate Nur isn't where I thought he would be at this point. I wouldn't say he's done poorly in his last 2 races, but he's probably going to have to step it up if he wants to be in the mix for the individual win next month.
I honestly don't think Mike Smith cares about these meets except to get the team win and run the course. At Nationals its on for Nico and the NAU gang. They never seem to run for individual glory at these things. It looked like Nico just staying in 9th the entire race.
FSU posted some brief footage on their Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/stories/fsu_track/2685041815945573299/?hl=en
zxvczcxv wrote:
Speaking of those future years, the eligibility on NAU is something. Of their top seven in the Garnet 8k, they finished soph-soph-freshman-junior-soph-jr-frosh. Add that to only one senior in the open top five, plus Colin Sahlman declaring for NAU next year, and they have the makings of some of the lowest scoring NCAA teams in decades for 2022-23-24.
Just imagine if Nico's brothers Lex and Leoand Aaron Sahlman come to NAU as well. Dynasty.
It looks like they're running on a horse track for part of it. Guessing it's a dirt road, but not your typically XC course, it seems
jonesy22 wrote:
The big surprise for me is Drew Bosley of NAU only 13 seconds behind Mantz in 6th.
No surprise to me. He was NAU's top runner at NCAAs in 2019 as a true Frosh (22nd overall, 18th in scoring) and was the Big Sky Champion that year too. He had some injuries going into the "2020" season, so if he's been healthy, I was fully expecting him to be in the mix with their top guys.
JacksonVille4 wrote:
I'm wondering wrote:
What's up with Nico Young? Losing to Bosley, placing 9th, and being 15 seconds behind his teammate Nur isn't where I thought he would be at this point. I wouldn't say he's done poorly in his last 2 races, but he's probably going to have to step it up if he wants to be in the mix for the individual win next month.
I honestly don't think Mike Smith cares about these meets except to get the team win and run the course. At Nationals its on for Nico and the NAU gang. They never seem to run for individual glory at these things. It looked like Nico just staying in 9th the entire race.
From how they ran last year and how they talk about XC, I don’t expect any of the NAU runners to be in the mix to win, even if they could. I expect the top runners to sit comfortably in the top 10 and just make sure they don’t bonk. They don’t need an individual win to win as a team.
Lumbersnacks wrote:
jonesy22 wrote:
The big surprise for me is Drew Bosley of NAU only 13 seconds behind Mantz in 6th.
No surprise to me. He was NAU's top runner at NCAAs in 2019 as a true Frosh (22nd overall, 18th in scoring) and was the Big Sky Champion that year too. He had some injuries going into the "2020" season, so if he's been healthy, I was fully expecting him to be in the mix with their top guys.
+1
JacksonVille4 wrote:
I'm wondering wrote:
What's up with Nico Young? Losing to Bosley, placing 9th, and being 15 seconds behind his teammate Nur isn't where I thought he would be at this point. I wouldn't say he's done poorly in his last 2 races, but he's probably going to have to step it up if he wants to be in the mix for the individual win next month.
I honestly don't think Mike Smith cares about these meets except to get the team win and run the course. At Nationals its on for Nico and the NAU gang. They never seem to run for individual glory at these things. It looked like Nico just staying in 9th the entire race.
I don't think Nico is quite on the level of the top top guys like Mantz, Wildschutt, Kiptoo and Teare just yet. Not a knock on him, he's still a year away from being a true ncaa title contender.
Bonkers wrote:
JacksonVille4 wrote:
I honestly don't think Mike Smith cares about these meets except to get the team win and run the course. At Nationals its on for Nico and the NAU gang. They never seem to run for individual glory at these things. It looked like Nico just staying in 9th the entire race.
I don't think Nico is quite on the level of the top top guys like Mantz, Wildschutt, Kiptoo and Teare just yet. Not a knock on him, he's still a year away from being a true ncaa title contender.
Don't put Teare in that group, he is more like a 6-0 at ncaa. Kiptoo just ran away from him.
Good day for all the Colorado schools. They all outperformed their rankings. CU, CSU, Air Force. Men's and Women's teams all stepped up today.
Interviews from today's races
FastTuohy wrote:
poiuytrewq wrote:
How fast is that course? Times are unbelievably fast
From what I have seen it is pretty flat, well maintained, and they are running early in the day obviously. A lot faster than the OSU course, faster than Zimmer I would think.
While a fast course, during 10k, the men will hit a hill 4 times with the last time being about 450 meters from the finish line. Do not underestimate the heat and humidity that was present today during the race. People were dropping like flies coming through the final homestretch. This is one of the best maintained and spectator friendly courses in the country. Those who attend Nationals will be in for a treat.
That hill is called the wall, its short and steep.....more than a few Florida xc titles have been lost on the wall.
Hearing that Utah runner Lisha van Onselen ran the race in her bare feet as usual.
Any confirmation of this?
She has competed barefoot in her other races this season.
Very impressed by Princeton. They are super deep this year. I think Trippas can really improve as well.
OldManRivers wrote:
FastTuohy wrote:
From what I have seen it is pretty flat, well maintained, and they are running early in the day obviously. A lot faster than the OSU course, faster than Zimmer I would think.
While a fast course, during 10k, the men will hit a hill 4 times with the last time being about 450 meters from the finish line. Do not underestimate the heat and humidity that was present today during the race. People were dropping like flies coming through the final homestretch. This is one of the best maintained and spectator friendly courses in the country. Those who attend Nationals will be in for a treat.
In this interview from Nuttycombe, Pray from S Utah who has just run both courses, seems to say the FL course is much flatter than the Nuttycombe course. She is not a hill runner and in her words the Nationals course is much better suited for her.
I would be that might be the case for a lot of ladies, so unlike last March, the course will not eliminate a good chunk of the field next month.
https://nuttycombe-invitational.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=4311&do=videos&video_id=311231I'm wondering wrote:
What's up with Nico Young? Losing to Bosley, placing 9th, and being 15 seconds behind his teammate Nur isn't where I thought he would be at this point. I wouldn't say he's done poorly in his last 2 races, but he's probably going to have to step it up if he wants to be in the mix for the individual win next month.
What's up with Nico? Oh, he was so far back and "only" ran 23:12! Oh, the horror of it!
Nico will be fine and I'll bet he'll finish higher than 9th at the NCAA Champs - when it really counts.
I'm more curious about Brodey Hasty running in the open race and finishing 7th behind two of his teammates. It looked like he was coming along late last winter and in the early spring. His top 50 finish at the NCAA was key to NAU beating Notre Dame at the NCAA XC Championships. Bosely was 67th at that meet so if Hasty was behind him the end result would have been more interesting.
Nico will be fine. The top NAU guys are so good that any one of them could win on any given day. Not a shock for Nico to lose to Nur or Bosley. Both are older than him and studs.
hab46 wrote:
Hearing that Utah runner Lisha van Onselen ran the race in her bare feet as usual.
Any confirmation of this?
wouldnt be surprised since she was coached by Zola Budd at CCU.