Athleteadam1982 wrote:
don’t hold your breath. we don’t want to get arrested on attempted murder of such a vile toxic human being. take care pal
So we now have a threat of attempted murder and one of being slapped from supporters of the cheats? I hate to deviate from the cheating issue at hand, but this is hardly a good look.
Is it any wonder people do not confront cheaters in person when this vitriol is the response.
Runnerbean187 wrote:
Athleteadam1982 wrote:
don’t hold your breath. we don’t want to get arrested on attempted murder of such a vile toxic human being. take care pal
So we now have a threat of attempted murder and one of being slapped from supporters of the cheats? I hate to deviate from the cheating issue at hand, but this is hardly a good look.
Is it any wonder people do not confront cheaters in person when this vitriol is the response.
Unfortunately this us the mentality with too many scousers, always the victim and nothing is ever their fault.
Birkoboy wrote:
Runnerbean187 wrote:
So we now have a threat of attempted murder and one of being slapped from supporters of the cheats? I hate to deviate from the cheating issue at hand, but this is hardly a good look.
Is it any wonder people do not confront cheaters in person when this vitriol is the response.
Plenty of cheats and idiots from everywhere, but
Unfortunately this us the mentality with too many scousers, always the victim and nothing is ever their fault.
Plenty of thugs and idiots from all over the place in my experience, more a learned behaviour thing than a scouse thing judging by the fact the parents were also in on this. I mean imagine having a conversation with your mum and dad about where to cut the course and ensure you make the good for age benchmark? A lad chancing his hand alone is one thing (still disgusting mind), but for this to be be pre-planned by Father, Mother and Son? I think this goes way beyond geographical location.
If any of the three run another marathon ever again, I will be very interested indeed to see the splits.
Come on! I stated that if I were to choose between slapping an obvious cheater and you, because of your weird vindictive posts, I would choose you without hesitation. You may now safely crawl out of hiding.
As for the attempted murder - that was a joke posted by Athleteadam1982, which you did not, because of your utter lack of sense of humor, catch. Other posters did - it was at your expense. Start breathing, or else you may die and some other highly strung poster - like Birkboy, might accuse us from attempted murder, despite not having any real evidence. Got it, or are you too obtuse?
BTW, I am glad that the cheaters got caught, I just don't get your incessant rambling about his morale, peers, club, and what not. Get off your high horse, it's more than annoying. He got DQed, and that's OK. No need for tar and feathers...
i don’t think he got my sense of humour. judging of posts between birkoboy and runnerbean187 I think they are the same person. continuously trying to reply to each other.
in the post (ben ran mid 16s for that 5k. 30 seconds behind the other two athletes you claim he got “ruined” by). he come 6 mins behind them on the marathon you say he cheated on. interesting. also i said take care pal. nothing malicious.
Athleteadam1982 wrote:
i don’t think he got my sense of humour. judging of posts between birkoboy and runnerbean187 I think they are the same person. continuously trying to reply to each other.
in the post (ben ran mid 16s for that 5k. 30 seconds behind the other two athletes you claim he got “ruined” by). he come 6 mins behind them on the marathon you say he cheated on. interesting. also i said take care pal. nothing malicious.
His marathon time does not count. He did not run it. This is acknowledged by the vast majority of posters. The quicker he owns up to that, the better for him in the local running community for sure.
He is nearly half an hour behind the same two lads at marathon, who both ran far tougher courses as well. Until he goes and runs a genuine marathon, and does not fall victim to the same “unfair” disqualification policy as his old man, that is how things stand beyond any dispute.
Also, I am not the same person at all as Birkoboy. Why would I bother creating another account when what I have posted myself is more than sufficient?
Would it surprise you if I said therunningman1357 is Ben himself? I don’t want to add anything further for the sake of malice so will just leave that there, but he needs to do a better job of covering his tracks online.
Buncha scousers on this thread.
Runnerbean187 wrote:
https://imgur.com/a/dCgxnFuThe first link above, is a typical training run posted by Ben., from 9th September 2021. Note that the calorie burn here works out to give or take 50 calories per mile. He is a small and nimble lad so fair enough. Garmin map colour coded to show speeding up/slowing down, all good.
He did 12 laps of the track and accumulated 163 feet of ascent? Is this track on the side of a hill or something?
You just won't stop. Admit it - you have a weird mission of poking and nagging at that family trio, with fixation on the youngest one.
We get it, he cut the marathon course short. He had gotten DQed. What else do you want to achieve? And don't hide behind some annoying crap of early morning and late evening runs, where you and your pals sweat like pigs, and thus you supposedly deserve at least xx:xx time. We all do/did, yet we don't need to kick the dead horse, when we stumble upon one. Focus on yourself, and try to become a better person. Judging from your toxic posts, you have a long way to go.
They broke the rules and were punished. Move on.
The only thing other Scousers will take him to task for is the fact he appears to have been found out. Ken Dodd was a hero on Merseyside for tax evasion.
Forrest Child wrote:
You just won't stop. Admit it - you have a weird mission of poking and nagging at that family trio, with fixation on the youngest one.
We get it, he cut the marathon course short. He had gotten DQed. What else do you want to achieve? And don't hide behind some annoying crap of early morning and late evening runs, where you and your pals sweat like pigs, and thus you supposedly deserve at least xx:xx time. We all do/did, yet we don't need to kick the dead horse, when we stumble upon one. Focus on yourself, and try to become a better person. Judging from your toxic posts, you have a long way to go.
They broke the rules and were punished. Move on.
Again with the assumptions and fishing for info. You want me to laugh at that and state how much quicker I may be, in order to narrow down who I may be. I’m not biting as to my ability. Trust me there are far far superior runners out there, why would I have any fixation aside from the fact they are cheaters? I have friends who have really struggled to attain the time yes, and they got the narrow buffer under good for age they deserved. Should that be taken away due to cheats gaining entry ahead of them ? That is my problem. Yes he has been punished by Berlin, but the club have also seen fit to investigate. Would you not agree there also needs to be a deterrent in addition to “whoops I’ve been caught, and results removed, let’s try and cheat again next time”? If greater awareness of what this family have done is out there, then I would hope it will stop the, pulling this stunt again.
I can see we are going around in circles, so happy to just leave it there, but again will answer points put to me if necessary.
I don't care who you are, and won't bother to even narrow it down to whether you are 3+hour marathoner, or sub 2:20 one. Neither do I care about the times of your pals. Nobody cares, except their closest friends and family. It's just a hobby for them, and it should stay as such. No need to out anyone, but that is up to you. Ho got caught and got punished. That's fine.
Your mission is far beyond your powers and the fact that you pursue this matter so passionately, only shows your character that you like to wallow in someone else's misery,
We have witnessed a couple years ago a suicide by a guy who got caught cheating (repeatedly) at running races. Would you be happy if this case ended like that? Would you finally feel like human trash then? Do you think that you would be better a person than those cheaters?
You are free to write whatever you want, just remember, each action has its consequences, even if unintentional. Your pursuit of public shaming is beyond ridiculous, it's malicious.
Are there screenshots of his “splits” before the he and the dad were removed?
Forrest Child wrote:
I don't care who you are, and won't bother to even narrow it down to whether you are 3+hour marathoner, or sub 2:20 one. Neither do I care about the times of your pals. Nobody cares, except their closest friends and family. It's just a hobby for them, and it should stay as such. No need to out anyone, but that is up to you. Ho got caught and got punished. That's fine.
Your mission is far beyond your powers and the fact that you pursue this matter so passionately, only shows your character that you like to wallow in someone else's misery,
We have witnessed a couple years ago a suicide by a guy who got caught cheating (repeatedly) at running races. Would you be happy if this case ended like that? Would you finally feel like human trash then? Do you think that you would be better a person than those cheaters?
We agree on the first paragraph for sure, though naturally I care about my pals training hard, and potentially having positions stolen not by the better man, but the better cheat. Again though, this was mentioned in previous post.
As I mentioned earlier, I abhor violence, so would hardly want any physical harm, inflicted by others or upon themselves to result. Male suicide is at frightening levels, and I am not wanting anybody to feel driven to such lengths. However, people do need to be called out for unacceptable behaviour. I can guarantee if he came out and admitted this publicly, then as stated earlier he could likely regain some respect.
The more he denies this, regardless of my powers of discipline (of which I have none!), I mean it when I say with no hint of malice that the whispering will follow him at each races and within his training sessions. As you rightly mention, he is clearly guilty (or words to that effect), so he needs to really cut his losses and not behave like this is false or an injustice.
I think sometimes tone and context is lost in the written word, but whilst I am glad cheating is exposed, there is no malice towards him or his family strictly beyond the cheating. Honestly in an ideal world I would prefer he just own up, and we can then move on, with the open knowledge of what he/they have done, and the regret for cheating a just consequence.
I genuinely hope that happens.
You are free to write whatever you want, just remember, each action has its consequences, even if unintentional. Your pursuit of public shaming is beyond ridiculous, it's malicious.
Forrest Child wrote:
I don't care who you are, and won't bother to even narrow it down to whether you are 3+hour marathoner, or sub 2:20 one. Neither do I care about the times of your pals. Nobody cares, except their closest friends and family. It's just a hobby for them, and it should stay as such. No need to out anyone, but that is up to you. Ho got caught and got punished. That's fine.
Your mission is far beyond your powers and the fact that you pursue this matter so passionately, only shows your character that you like to wallow in someone else's misery,
We have witnessed a couple years ago a suicide by a guy who got caught cheating (repeatedly) at running races. Would you be happy if this case ended like that? Would you finally feel like human trash then? Do you think that you would be better a person than those cheaters?.
We agree on the first paragraph for sure, though naturally I care about my pals training hard, and potentially having positions stolen not by the better man, but the better cheat. Again though, this was mentioned in previous post.
As I mentioned earlier, I abhor violence, so would hardly want any physical harm, inflicted by others or upon themselves to result. Male suicide is at frightening levels, and I am not wanting anybody to feel driven to such lengths. However, people do need to be called out for unacceptable behaviour. I can guarantee if he came out and admitted this publicly, then as stated earlier he could likely regain some respect.
The more he denies this, regardless of my powers of discipline (of which I have none!), I mean it when I say with no hint of malice that the whispering will follow him at each races and within his training sessions. As you rightly mention, he is clearly guilty (or words to that effect), so he needs to really cut his losses and not behave like this is false or an injustice.
I think sometimes tone and context is lost in the written word, but whilst I am glad cheating is exposed, there is no malice towards him or his family strictly beyond the cheating. Honestly in an ideal world I would prefer he just own up, and we can then move on, with the open knowledge of what he/they have done, and the regret for cheating a just consequence.
I genuinely hope that happens.
Runnerbean187 wrote:
Forrest Child wrote:
I don't care who you are, and won't bother to even narrow it down to whether you are 3+hour marathoner, or sub 2:20 one. Neither do I care about the times of your pals. Nobody cares, except their closest friends and family. It's just a hobby for them, and it should stay as such. No need to out anyone, but that is up to you. Ho got caught and got punished. That's fine.
Your mission is far beyond your powers and the fact that you pursue this matter so passionately, only shows your character that you like to wallow in someone else's misery,
We have witnessed a couple years ago a suicide by a guy who got caught cheating (repeatedly) at running races. Would you be happy if this case ended like that? Would you finally feel like human trash then? Do you think that you would be better a person than those cheaters?.
We agree on the first paragraph for sure, though naturally I care about my pals training hard, and potentially having positions stolen not by the better man, but the better cheat. Again though, this was mentioned in previous post.
As I mentioned earlier, I abhor violence, so would hardly want any physical harm, inflicted by others or upon themselves to result. Male suicide is at frightening levels, and I am not wanting anybody to feel driven to such lengths. However, people do need to be called out for unacceptable behaviour. I can guarantee if he came out and admitted this publicly, then as stated earlier he could likely regain some respect.
The more he denies this, regardless of my powers of discipline (of which I have none!), I mean it when I say with no hint of malice that the whispering will follow him at each races and within his training sessions. As you rightly mention, he is clearly guilty (or words to that effect), so he needs to really cut his losses and not behave like this is false or an injustice.
I think sometimes tone and context is lost in the written word, but whilst I am glad cheating is exposed, there is no malice towards him or his family strictly beyond the cheating. Honestly in an ideal world I would prefer he just own up, and we can then move on, with the open knowledge of what he/they have done, and the regret for cheating a just consequence.
I genuinely hope that happens.
Are you his ex? You seem pretty obsessed with him.
silvery gold wrote:
Are there screenshots of his “splits” before the he and the dad were removed?
I ran ~2:40 in Berlin and passed an old guy in the last mile (about 5'6", probably 185 pounds) who was running maybe 10-min pace and no way ran the entire marathon. I know this was probably someone else, but also a cheater.
Anyway, you cheaters are a bunch of wankers.
Athleteadam1982 wrote:
i don’t think he got my sense of humour. judging of posts between birkoboy and runnerbean187 I think they are the same person. continuously trying to reply to each other.
in the post (ben ran mid 16s for that 5k. 30 seconds behind the other two athletes you claim he got “ruined” by). he come 6 mins behind them on the marathon you say he cheated on. interesting. also i said take care pal. nothing malicious.
Nope we defo aren't as any mod can see.
Obviously Ben was going to be one of the people defending him on here
How about you bunch off jangling pricks get a life
He missed every timing mat between 15k and 40km.