How did they know without a doubt is that specific burrito?
How did they know without a doubt is that specific burrito?
Completely agree with you. What a lame excuse to say she ate a burrito and that’s what caused the positive test. The fact so many believe her is just as disappointing. Lance Armstrong denied doping for years and I said for years that there was no way he wasn’t. Yet ppl stood by that megalomaniac. It’s absurd. She is guilty and there are others who gave yet to be caught.
What surprises me, is how Wilson, Coleman etc. got away with a slap on the wrist and she gets banned for 4 years.
Considering the relative lenience other offenders were treated with we either didn't get the full truth or the case for the ban was much better founded than in these other cases. Or what could be an explanation for the severity of ban compared with similar cases?
Barry Badrinath wrote:
It wasn't a trace amount. It was over 5 times what is normal from food consumption.
Her team claimed she had been tested hundreds of times before and never tested positive.
If true??
If she wants to prove her innocence, go back to burrito truck and prove it.
Eat a burrito (or five) then have blood/urine samples extracted regularly over the next 24/48 hours. If her claims are true, the nandrolene spike will show up again.
While it wouldn't conclusively exonerate her, it would give her a decent scientific backing to her claims.
But I doubt she'd take this easy-to-do step because well ... you tell me why she wouldn't?
Liberals are incredibly dumb when it concerns Human nature. People cheat.....
So ROJO and the Shelby fan boy crew are now Liberals? Did Tucker tell you that?
More accurate summation of what's going on here - LR MB'ers are racists.
Black sprinter/athlete & positive test = Doper
White female US distance runner & positive test = System is broken.
Alexi Santana wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Is it confirmed that she could not produce a credit card receipt of the purchase?
I'm very curious about this as well.
It was a cash only truck.
Uhhh wrote:
If she wants to prove her innocence, go back to burrito truck and prove it.
Eat a burrito (or five) then have blood/urine samples extracted regularly over the next 24/48 hours. If her claims are true, the nandrolene spike will show up again.
While it wouldn't conclusively exonerate her, it would give her a decent scientific backing to her claims.
But I doubt she'd take this easy-to-do step because well ... you tell me why she wouldn't?
The truck is probably no longer there.
Jo72 wrote:
What surprises me, is how Wilson, Coleman etc. got away with a slap on the wrist and she gets banned for 4 years.
Considering the relative lenience other offenders were treated with we either didn't get the full truth or the case for the ban was much better founded than in these other cases. Or what could be an explanation for the severity of ban compared with similar cases?
Wilson got cleared by the authorities. That's a pretty crucial difference. All cases are decided on their facts. They aren't all the same - even if they appear "similar".
is it possible wrote:
non city boy Stroker Ace wrote:
Exactly. Any pork that you buy in the US is from a boar that is virtually guaranteed to have been castrated. If they're using this as a defense it's no wonder she lost her appeal.
Maybe the food truck raises their own pigs lol.
It doesn't matter who raised it. Meat from a boar that hasn't been castrated smells and tastes bad. No one would ever eat or sell it.
My 2c:
When Christian Coleman got popped, IIRC, the consensus opinion here was that it was on him to follow testing procedures to a tee, because that's a core part of his job. IMO, being careful about your food intake falls in the same category.
A lot of athletes have lost competition years, or risked it, by eating tainted meat (so they argued, anyway). One way to respond to that is to eat whatever you want and then make a big fuss if you get popped. Another is to be *extremely careful about what you eat*, especially w.r.t meat. This would probably mean:
* get all your meat, eggs, and dairy from a butcher you trust or directly from a farm;
* eat only fresh seafood
* in general, stick to nuts, fruits grains, mushrooms, etc. -- things that couldn't possibly have steroids in them.
Shelby didn't do that. Probably a lot of athletes don't do that, but they could.
So I don't see this as an instance of miscarried justice. I think it's a sobering reminder about how being conscientious about testing, food, etc. is a core part of the athlete's job, and if you mess it up, you run the risk of needing to go get a real job.
IMHO.
As somebody wrote earlier, if contaminated meat causes these drug levels to spike, fairly commonly it seems, why does that occur only with track athletes and not with, for example, competitive shooters?
There are only three possible answers -
1) Track athletes are subjected to different tests (about that, I don't know)
2) Track athletes are far more likely to eat contaminated meat (highly, highly unlikely)
3) Track athletes are doping
It's either #1 or #3, and knowing how the two sports are tested would settle that item.
Jo72 wrote:
What surprises me, is how Wilson, Coleman etc. got away with a slap on the wrist and she gets banned for 4 years.
Considering the relative lenience other offenders were treated with we either didn't get the full truth or the case for the ban was much better founded than in these other cases. Or what could be an explanation for the severity of ban compared with similar cases?
Her lawyer's explanation is that it was AIU for Shelby, USADA for the others. It could be that the international agency wanted to make an example out of an American to balance out all the Kenyan busts of the recent years.
ScottEvil wrote:
My 2c:
When Christian Coleman got popped, IIRC, the consensus opinion here was that it was on him to follow testing procedures to a tee, because that's a core part of his job. IMO, being careful about your food intake falls in the same category.
A lot of athletes have lost competition years, or risked it, by eating tainted meat (so they argued, anyway). One way to respond to that is to eat whatever you want and then make a big fuss if you get popped. Another is to be *extremely careful about what you eat*, especially w.r.t meat. This would probably mean:
* get all your meat, eggs, and dairy from a butcher you trust or directly from a farm;
* eat only fresh seafood
* in general, stick to nuts, fruits grains, mushrooms, etc. -- things that couldn't possibly have steroids in them.
Shelby didn't do that. Probably a lot of athletes don't do that, but they could.
So I don't see this as an instance of miscarried justice. I think it's a sobering reminder about how being conscientious about testing, food, etc. is a core part of the athlete's job, and if you mess it up, you run the risk of needing to go get a real job.
IMHO.
Absolutely the right take on this. Training 4 hours a day is not enough, being an elite athlete is a full time job. Should have been learning nutrition and chemistry in the free time instead of playing Candy Crush. To be honest it was stupid/naive/irresponsible of Houlihan to eat a burrito from a food truck, if that's what really happened.
ScottEvil wrote:
My 2c:
When Christian Coleman got popped, IIRC, the consensus opinion here was that it was on him to follow testing procedures to a tee, because that's a core part of his job. IMO, being careful about your food intake falls in the same category.
He only missed a test, right?
Or did I miss something about him glowing?
Agree. She and her coach are idiots, after everything that’s happened to others with meat, to eat a pork burrito from a Mexican food truck.
Anyone with half a brain knows if you are an elite athlete who is tested regularly, you need to be careful what you eat and what meds you take.
I’m sure being a Nike athlete she has access to dietary advice, doctors and professional coaches. It’s not like she’s an ignorant high school athlete with a teacher as a coach. She is trained at literally the most advanced, highly paid running institutions in the world. She trains at Nike HQ.
She and her coach are either idiots or cheats. Either way she is done.
runnerboy70 wrote:
Liberals are incredibly dumb when it concerns Human nature. People cheat.....
This must be the stupidest take of the lot.
Hardloper is a huge Trump and Bibi fan boy, he’s been home devastated lately.
The Unkle wrote:
Barry Badrinath wrote:
It wasn't a trace amount. It was over 5 times what is normal from food consumption.
Her team claimed she had been tested hundreds of times before and never tested positive.
If true??
She was tested 9 times this year and 16 in 2020.
Big Juicy Steak wrote:
It could be that the international agency wanted to make an example out of an American to balance out all the Kenyan busts of the recent years.
False. They like busting everyone. The CAS not accepting Shelby's explanation is the more interesting part of this. They did accept Lawson's explanation of events. I think this case being Nandrolone and, if the people on here are to believed a much less believable level of it, is why this case is different. Shelby's side is arguing this could've been all naturally occurring. The CAS is not buying that.