Jakob Ingebrigtsen Wins, Then Loses (Is Dqd), Then Wins Euro 1500 Title

rojo wrote:

On the next turn, he went on the in field but you it happened after contact. Yes the Polish guy comes down on him but it looks like Jakob was clearly trying to pass the guy when he didn't have room to do that.

You can clearly see that Jakob pushed the Polish guy first, he literally had his hands on him trying to shove him out of lane 1 so he can pass and go to the front.

The Polish was just resisting and rightfully keeping his spot. The Polish runner wants to medal just as much as anyone else, why would he let Jakob shove him over to lane 2 so he can pass him? Even if he would just get added 0.50 sec for stepping inside, that's a DQ for "unsportsmanlike behavior" anyway. There are plenty of opportunities to pass others, no need to shove them around/out of your way just because it pleases you.

rojo wrote:

Remember, the Ingebrigtsens have a history of doing this crap.FIlip was DQd 2 years ago for th same thing and Jakob almost got DQd at worlds last year.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/jakob-ingebrigtsen-the-betting-favorite-and-19-yr-old-norwegian-5000-is-dqd-from-mens-5000-at-world-championships/

100% this.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

objectiveobserver wrote:

When I see the race again it looks like Rozmys is shifting lane and running into Jakob in the start of the turn.

There might be a chance to change the disqualification.

Yeah that looks like a pretty clear push

objectiveobserver wrote:

When I see the race again it looks like Rozmys is shifting lane and running into Jakob in the start of the turn.

There might be a chance to change the disqualification.

Romzys was pushed from the outside.

On the back straight, Jakob and the Polish runner were running shoulder-to-shoulder. He wasn’t trying to pass. They were even. The Polish runner tries to come into lane 1 on the turn, initiates contact, and extends his arm. This would even be called as pass interference in football. Even with this, Jakob takes a single step off the track and gets right back on. No way this DQ stands.

Thought Dragonfly spikes were for 5/10K?

Just like he was mentally crushed in the 2017 European U20 Championships after being tripped in the 1500m?

When will you learn?

objectiveobserver wrote:

They're 2-2 now, Marcin will win the next one.

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They are not 2-2. They have met many more times.

Lew will never win again in a race of importance.

Jakob didn´t run faster than necessary to win. He prudently saved his strength for the 3000m.

Championship races friend. All other times matter not.

2018 euros 1. Jakob 2. Lewandowski

2019 euros indoor 1. Lewandowski 2. Jakob

2019 worlds 3. Lewandowski 4. Jakob

2021 euros indoor 1. Lewandowski .. DQ. Jakob

rojo wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Absolute nonsense.

Home town decision to cheat Jakob out of gold and hand it to Lewandowski.

Doesn't matter at end of day, Jakob showed he could handle him in a Championship race.

It's defiintely not 'absolute nonsense.'

As I watching this, I thought to myself at the start. "What the hell is he doing pushing all these guys?" Then on the 2nd turn i thought, "Did he just step on the infield?"

Now he's been DQd.

I hate useless DQs and think our sport needs to have other penalties. Like if you step over the rail, you add .50 seconds or something.

Aside from 0.5 seconds being way too small...

If you are talking about super shoes ruining the purity of the sport, you can't also argue that breaking the rules should not be a DQ. We don't want a sport where there is allowed rule breaking. A DQ for one step isn't about justice for that infraction, it is about setting a standard of behavior- the extreme consequence should discourage breaking the rule at all. I think it does.

Jakob will not be "mentally crushed" from losing this race. If anything he will be more motivated for the 3,000m.

Timpani wrote:

Aside from 0.5 seconds being way too small...

If you are talking about super shoes ruining the purity of the sport, you can't also argue that breaking the rules should not be a DQ. We don't want a sport where there is allowed rule breaking. A DQ for one step isn't about justice for that infraction, it is about setting a standard of behavior- the extreme consequence should discourage breaking the rule at all. I think it does.

Agree - rules are there for a reason.

No one in tennis ever complains when the Hawkeye calls a ball that was just one inch out or in either "out or in", it just gets accepted. In T&F people just get mad/upset when their favorite athletes get DQ'ed and try to find 3423432 reasons of why the DQ should be overturned.

This is not about an inch, this is a FULL foot inside the track. And the way how it happened was all his own fault. Many, many athletes got DQ'ed during this championship for exactly the same reason. How would they feel if Jakob now suddenly decide to get special treatment just because he has the largest fanbase? Please respect the rules and for once accept them, and don't always try to challenge/badmouth them.

Hahahahaha. This is perhaps the dumbest take you've ever presented. Lewandowski barely ran under 5 flat for 2k in the summer, while Jakob ran 4:50. Both were time trials. Do you honestly think if the distance is increased that Lewandowski will take it?! You are a complete joke or a very elaborate troll.

For the love of god, please use the quote function...

So Jealous wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

Yeah, but there was one guy in the other thread who got laughed at by saying that Lewandowski actually got more chances to win in the 3000m (and become the very first person to ever win gold in 800m, 1500m, and 3000m EU indoor) which might now become true. Jakob will be mentally crushed from losing Gold due to a stupid mistake by him whereas Lewandowski will smell the chance to write history and to win 2x Gold and he always has his kick to rely on. Today the pace Jakob set was just too fast for him, you could see that Lewandowski was really struggling just to keep up and he had absolutely nothing left at the end.

Jakob will not be "mentally crushed" from losing this race. If anything he will be more motivated for the 3,000m.

Apparently he just said in an interview that if the DQ holds, he is leaving and will not race the 3,000.

rojo wrote:

Remember, the Ingebrigtsens have a history of doing this crap.FIlip was DQd 2 years ago for th same thing and Jakob almost got DQd at worlds last year.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/jakob-ingebrigtsen-the-betting-favorite-and-19-yr-old-norwegian-5000-is-dqd-from-mens-5000-at-world-championships/

Then went on to trip Mo Ahmed 4+ times in the final. about time they pay for their actions.

This is an outrage!! Give Jakob back the medal he deserves!

Attack Poland. Take all their perogis!!

Jakob for the gold wrote:

This is an outrage!! Give Jakob back the medal he deserves!

Attack Poland. Take all their perogis!!

Attack Poland? Too soon man.

JBaller33 wrote:

Apparently he just said in an interview that if the DQ holds, he is leaving and will not race the 3,000.

So much about "not being crushed mentally". That's just the icing on the cake, even more unsportsmanlike behavior. Threatening European Athletics to not participate as best European runner in a very important event just because he - rightfully! - got DQ'ed is really at the bottom.

Why can't he just accept the decision and move on and show us what he can do in the 3000? Or is he afraid that he is so crushed mentally that he will lose?

That's the difference between Jakob and other great runners in the past. Geb would have laughed this off and crushed the 3k.

Lewandowski even very much shrugged off congratulations about his 1500m gold, arriving due to Ingebrigtsen's DQ. "No, no, I'm still waiting." That's a true competitor/champion, Jakob might be the fitter runner these days but this behavior is really annoying and bad for the sport.

Watch the race again. Rozmys moves into lane 1 from lane 2 on the turn and cuts Jakob off. It’s very clear on the video that Jakob puts a hand on Rozmys to let him know he’s there, but Rozmys just keeps moving in anyway and bumps him. This DQ is a joke as is anyone defending it.