This moderator makes Chris Wallace look pathetic - Official Trump -Biden Debate Thread

Two A holes pulling each others chain. You can console each other after Nov. 3.

Belarussiya wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

No one changes their mind on the basis of this debate. On the basis of the last 4 years Trump has made everyone's mind up. In tennis terms, this debate is a dead rubber. The outcome doesn't determine the tie.

I would consider that your way of saying Biden did poorly.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Belarussiya wrote:

I would consider that your way of saying Biden did poorly.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/cnn-poll-final-presidential-debate/index.html

CNN calls it a victory for Biden! That settles it. Thread over.

Perception is reality.

Most on here are probably too young to remember the 1960 presidential TV debate between JFK and Richard Nixon.

JFK won the election (narrowly) ONLY because he was better looking on TV.

Sad to say, but Trump looked better and younger than Biden.

If history repeats itself after last night, Trump wins.

Finally the answer of when we will get more details on Trump’s new excellent healthcare plan.

https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1319656235981959169?s=21

Wallace tweeted that he could use some pointers from Welker because she was fantastic.

A Gardner/Hickenlooper Senate debate here in Colorado a few weeks ago had an awesome moderator. She did not let them interrupt and when they avoided questions, which they did a lot, she called them on it. "I am going to rephrase the question to you again, because you did not come close to addressing it in any way."

She also had some "yes or no" questions with no explanation beyond the one word answer. When they tried to elaborate she talked over them asking for a "yes or no, nothing else." These were questions that did not need context or clarification but avoided by politicians.

Great ad ?. Trump's plan: get Barrett to kick 20 million citizens off their health care insurance !!

BLM!! wrote:

The mute rules are helping as well, but this debate has started off much better than last time and I think it's partly because of the moderator. Wallace sucked.

The mute button protected Trump from himself. No mute button and he'd have been the typical chitchow.

Welker was good BUT Trump was clearly on his best behavior and was instructed forcefully by his team to not interrupt Biden. Wallace didn't get that version of Trump. No person could've realistically succeeded given Trump's behavior on that night. Now, her questions were better than Wallace's and in line with the questions from the VP moderator (who couldn't maintain control, but asked great Qs).

As far as scoring the debate:

-Trump lied a TON, and got called out on it a fair bit. He struggled to defend pretty much anything. Either he had to try to do mental gymnastics (Corona) or more commonly just went on the attack instead with whatabout-ism that didn't quite work

-Biden had some issues defending his 8 years in the White House and had some pitfalls on energy/economy

-Biden's top moments were hitting out at Trump's lack of a plan for COVID and Health Care, his taxes and foreign entanglements as well as attacking Trump's child separation policy and soft spot with Russia/North Korea

-Trump's top moments were attacking Biden's follow-through on his statements, and listing his own achievements on the economy

I've seen the 3 polls out there give a 51-54% edge to Biden and I can see that. Trump certainly had to dodge land mines given the topics on display. If things aren't going well like they clearly aren't right now (higher unemployment, middling economy, COVID raging) you're fighting an uphill battle.

Thanks for all these "facts." Especially the 51%-54%.

aztec the moron wrote:

Trump has OBJECTIVELY been harder on Russia than any other president in US history.

I think these Liberal/BLM types are so limp wristed that they can't understand true leadership like Trump. Trump doesn't just beat his adversaries, he DESTROYS them. Look what he has done to everyone in his way: Cruz, Rubio, Jeb Bush, Sanders, Clinton, etc. He is doing the same to Biden as we speak. He has done the same to Dems in Congress, traitors in his own ranks, the Russians, the Chinese, and the Europeans who hate America. Libbies just can't handle a strong leader who wins at all costs.

It's going to be dark times for Liberals when Trump gets re-elected. Trump has a LONG memory, as do his supporters, and liberal hysterical behavior is not going to be given the long leash this time around. Trump is here to stay this time, and the real rules of conduct that matter will be enforced.

Alligator Moo wrote:

I think these Liberal/BLM types are so limp wristed that they can't understand true leadership like Trump. Trump doesn't just beat his adversaries, he DESTROYS them. Look what he has done to everyone in his way: Cruz, Rubio, Jeb Bush, Sanders, Clinton, etc. He is doing the same to Biden as we speak. He has done the same to Dems in Congress, traitors in his own ranks, the Russians, the Chinese, and the Europeans who hate America. Libbies just can't handle a strong leader who wins at all costs.

It's going to be dark times for Liberals when Trump gets re-elected. Trump has a LONG memory, as do his supporters, and liberal hysterical behavior is not going to be given the long leash this time around. Trump is here to stay this time, and the real rules of conduct that matter will be enforced.

Google can be your friend!

Politics is a weird thing. People will oddly convince themselves of a false reality. Trump won the debate, and had restraint unlike the first debate, and walked over Biden repeatedly. Will it affect the election results? Not much, as most have already sent in their votes. It's humorous to see people say Trump lies(don't believe him... blah blah blah), with forgetting to note Biden lieds The current allegations are appearing to be true with overwhelming evidence coming forth, so Biden lied in response. If one wants to change one's views, at least be more realistic, and at least pretend to be non-biased. Does Biden's allegations affect his ability as a president? Not really. However, we do see dishonesty, which is being noted to not vote Trump.

As a non-biased voter, who is NOT married to either political party, Biden looked weak in the debate. Biden lost on each question. Biden did not fair well on any one question, nor cited he would do anything in response to covid that Trump as not done. As noted, state's have had the power to shut down or open their own states, NOT the presidential administration. One has to be crazy to think the presidential administration has that power. Take a simple US government classs if you don't know these issues.

Trump listed numbers and statements that have been verified last night. Trump is rarely in line with stating numbers and statistics, as he is more of a generalized claims ikind of guy for how he talks. Where as Biden does virtue signaling, and is a afraid to stick to any set point if it hurts his votes in anyway.

Biden put himself at a disadvantage with his VP selection as non-biased voters wanted someone who is actually qualfied(and NOT a long time career politician) , as his mental capacity is flailing. ISorry, but it is.

The first debate, Biden appeared to have got the upper hand(at least on style points), but the debate last night was Trump win by a mile, and anyone that thinks otherwise is smoking some magical drugs of denial. Again, the non-biaseed voters think very little of your ability to be realistic, or it's hard to hear you all screaming from your mom's basement. Either way, you all are at a loss.

Collie, In reference to your reply post, I need some keywords/search terms from you to enter into Goog search. Maybe even some linked results, if you don't mind? Thank you.

Sputnik (Moo)

Alligator Moo wrote:

We wouldn't even need a moderator, if Biden wasn't such a poosy. He just can't handle pressure, so he needs a babysitter. Can you imagine what the Chinese and Russians would do to this lightweight? We need a guy like Trump who knows how to steamroll anyone in his path.

This is exactly what every women who grew up with daddy issues looks for in a man.

Whoa, buddy! I bet you needed a few tissues after getting that one out! Felt good, didn't it? Now double-check and make sure you didn't spill any on your mom's bedspread.

There was no need to degenerate into veiled vulgritudes just because you disagree with my correct analysis of the situation. Be better. Be an American, if you are capable.

Alligator Moo wrote:

law and order SVU wrote:

Whoa, buddy! I bet you needed a few tissues after getting that one out! Felt good, didn't it? Now double-check and make sure you didn't spill any on your mom's bedspread.

There was no need to degenerate into veiled vulgritudes just because you disagree with my correct analysis of the situation. Be better. Be an American, if you are capable.

You need to look up the definition of "analysis". Also, "vulgritudes" is not a word, you fine upstanding American, you!

Rosebud wrote:Kristen Welker is very impressive. I would date her.

You and a lot of other people too! However, she married a guy who is an executive with Merck in 2017 so your chances are pretty slim.