The Trials and Tribulations of Running YouTubers

Agreed - she is most likely a trust fund kid with no real life experience. For most, permanently being on holiday / travelling with unlimited funds is not an option.

If she didn't beat her PB, you would have to question what on earth she is doing. We would all be beating our PBs if we had the equivalent free time to train, instead of working 9-5 to pay the mortgage and the bills.

Anybody watch Donatos videos?

Ha, another insufferable narcissist.

I can't believe big marathons don't ban selfie sticks. It's obnoxious to have a giant stick with your phone attached out by your side in a race with 30k+ people. (see: Kofuzi)

1000 people would all need to email race directors before they would even listen.

Interesting post, I just watched through a couple videos and you're spot on - there are workouts where the coach wants to pull him while connor does one more rep, but clayton pushes back slightly and the coach lets him run it.

It's obviously difficult training with someone like connor tbh so I don't know exactly what the answer is. Keep up, burn yourself out, or let him go and mentally resign yourself - that sucks for someone competitive and probably won't help him get hyped up for races.

Vaguely know of her and can confirm she isn’t a trust fund kid (even though her online persona would seem that way)

Welsh Runner having a hard time, according to Strava. Comment of “Too many issues to list” means “I’ve got a long list of excuses ready for when I have my inevitable bad race”.

Yes, it must be autumn/spring (delete as appropriate) marathon season because the Welsh Runner seems to be imploding.

I wouldn't be so churlish to wish him an injury but it does seem to be painfully predictable how the All-In training block seems to go belly up every time.

Maybe he should focus on training instead of thinking about content creation / what angle his selfies should be at. And when I say training, what his coach actually prescribes him.

I know this thread has shifted from Shoetubers to a more general discussion of running YouTube and the "follow my journey" bros (and Philly) but I can't believe the state of shoe reviews. I'm in the position where I'm looking for a new pair of shoes and I'm always curious what's out there since my previous go-to Nike Pegasus just hasn't hit for me in the last few versions. So, I entered into the shoetuber swamp and it is so mired with a lot of these clowns I've been warned about on this thread (a few that I was familiar with before) that it is astounding. All I want to know is some basics and a quick opinion on a few shoes I'm considering but instead I have to skip through running montages with bad, royalty-free music and an unnecessarily exhaustive breakdown of every part of the shoe just for the reviewer to give their own personal opinion. I suppose it's my mistake for feeling the pull of curiosity but man is the market oversaturated with these guys and the reviews have become so bloated with shoe stats and little micro-notes that I can't imagine apply to anyone but the reviewer. I'm not sure Youtube was ever a great place to get reliable shoe reviews given how individual an experience with a shoe can be but now I feel like I can't even get a good general sense of a shoe from the sea of videos out there.

For a guy with a history of injuries you think he'd "bank" a good block of easy mileage and get some consistency but no, as always running too hard on his workouts and having them too big.

Coming up to 3 years since his last decent marathon race but he doesn't seem to learn

Yeah, but like… what are you expecting? You may be aware that the FBI admitted several years ago that basically all of its hair analysis, bite mark analysis and other key forensic “disciplines” were total nonsense. Well, take the most subjective, hand-wavy forensics that ever existed in the 1970s - your average shoetuber (and, for that matter, the high school grad working the fitting treadmill at your local running shoe store) are still substantially less scientific even than that.

There are some objective facts - material, dimensions, overall shape. Everything else is basically BS. What feels snappy to one reviewer feels overly hard to another. One man’s instability is another man’s responsiveness. Cushy, or mushy? Feet are shaped differently, and people are notoriously bad at standardizing experiences.

Basically, I understand why people look to the internet or any other medium for feedback, but it’s largely misguided. You may get some overall useful info about key design flaws like an outsole that wears down extremely quickly, but for anything more specific than that, you just need to try a lot of different shoes on. Ideally at a store with a generous testing policy.

How come so many of the shoetubers have British or Australian accents? I really can't tolerate them. We don't need close up shots of your yellow crooked teeth.

Yowana is about the only running youtuber I like, & I only watch the parts when he's running & going on hilarious rants. I don't care about the shoes, so I skip about 50 min of his 60 min videos.

Potentially British and Australian people have time to make YouTube videos as they haven't been tricked into believing the "American Dream" and the need to work 100 hours a week. They also get free healthcare, sick pay, 4 or 5 weeks legally required time off, fully paid per year and generally have a better quality of life. There are also probably more healthy people in Britain and Australia who are able to run and don't need a car to go to their closest shop which is 5 hours away. Oh, and they have pavements (sidewalks) to actually run on and don't need to run in the road

Europoor spotted. There are plenty of U.S. based runtubers, but I haven't found many in that nice sweet spot a lot of the British ones seem to sit at. They are either too elite, too much of a clown, or just don't have the charisma to make it. Adam Wood, Michael Ottesen, and Charlie Teeter are about as close as you can get, but they have real life responsibilities outside of running/youtubing that keeps them from maximizing their potential on YouTube.

Nah, 2:47 is his grandma's time......... still thinking 2:36-37 for Chicago

You vaguely know of her and then basically after that you can confirm? Right.

I think when people say "trust fund kid", they don't mean it in the literal sense. It's more of an insinuation that someone appears to have a lifestyle beyond their means. They have a safety net to try things and don't seem to need to sacrifice their very comfortable lifestyle (e.g., Flowberge). Of course, some may be making good money.

Someone made a point above, "don't watch if you don't like their content", and they are "promoting a positive, healthy lifestyle". I think this is a very "basic view". Most of us on here don't watch them; however, young people living at home due to the extortionate cost of living do. They see someone with minimal talent saying how blessed they are, travelling the world and training full time to run not even good hobby jogger times. Imagine how it makes these young people feel.

Overall, Mary seems to fit into this specific fitness, lifestyle influencer bracket that Lucy Davis and Nutty Foodie also occupy. Unless a healthy lifestyle involves taking selfies of your abs in a gym mirror and promoting consumerism, these people are a net negative manifestation and throw-away fashion and consumption. They only care about supporting their #blessed lifestyle and maintaining for as long as possible (e.g., Nutty Foodie being sponsored by BPN).