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A double vaccinated man in his 20s is among the six COVID-19 deaths recorded in NSW on Thursday as Premier Dominic Perrottet suggests elective surgery may be suspended to ease pressure on the healthcare system.
Do Not Comply With Covid Restrictions wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
Very mad that his idol Trump (boosted bro) even realizes the vaccines work very well.
If they work so well, how come they need multiple tries to stick? What # booster are we on now?
What # booster will you be on in 10 years?
From a utility point of view, these vaccines are not very practical. They aren't built to last. Unlike say, a bridge. A civil engineering feat that stands for 50-100 years plus.
This is the most braindead take of them all. It shows complete ignorance of medical history, basic immunology, and the empirical process
All vaccines take at least 2 doses, most 3, and some 5 doses (like TDaP that you received as a child)!
This is nothing new or strange.
Doses and schemes of vaccines are always adjusted as large-scale real world data develops.
You are raging at doctors and scientists for updating their guidelines based on new data... hilarious.
DanM continues flailing at the wall with n=1 anecdotes since all the aggregate numbers destroy his worldview.
That n+1 article had a lot more than that to say about breakthroughs. Holy moly.
2600 bro wrote:
joed|rtttty wrote:
Ontario - 67% of hospitalizations (including ICU) are vaccinated
Vaccination rate = 77%
We'll have updated UK data on 1/6 (but the reports encompass a four-week period, so it won't show up to date stats, which are more meaningful, but it is better than the garbage they shovel out in the US. At last check, the vaccinated made up 53.58% of hospitalizations in the UK (for comparison's sake, in Ontario, the vaccinated made up 37.5% of hospitalization over the same period). Currently, that rate is at 67%, meaning that the vaccinated rate increased by almost 80% relative to the unvaccinated rate. What I am most interested in is seeing the difference between Week 51 report and the week 1 report, as that will provide a clearer picture on how the latest two weeks compare to weeks 47 and 48 and will paint a clearer picture of the real time data on Omicron.
Ontario ICU:
57% vaccinated. The trends are telling.
You've always only sliced specific data that tells your story. Like small counties in Colorado. I am happy to way for loads of Omicron data.
Remember these data are pre-Simpson's correction. something you've fallen for like 100 times.
Colorado counties data:
Mesa County COVID tracker - Breakthrough infection rate up to 31.8 (had dropped to 14. before the holiday). Reinfection rate holding steady at 5.1 for the same period.
Tricounty Health Department - 50% of December cases among the vaccinated.
Harambe wrote:
Feel free to move if you don't like your mayor's policies or vote against them. I find it unsurprising that a mayor in NYC would govern differently than Atlanta despite being from the same gigantic political party.
Republican mayors are generally OK with killing their citizens by pretending COVID doesn't exist, so that's a different story entirely.
Moving or voting against the mayor has nothing to do with the issue at hand here. Why do find it "unsurprising" that de Blasio would govern differently in NYC implementing a strict vaccine passport, where if you're unvaxxed you can't participate in society, vs Keisha Bottoms, a staunch Liberal, who's not interested in any vaccine passport for City of Atlanta? Do the dynamics of the virus act differently in NYC vs Atlanta. And I remind you that Atlanta & the entire metro area has a very low vaccination rate with cases & hospitalizations skyrocketing.
And why would Bottom's counterpart in Chicago, Mayor Lori Lightfoot, slap on a NYC-style strict vaccine mandate on the citizens of the Windy City? Now, in her case, she has basically said she doing this to punish the unvaccinated.
And to my complete surprise there are even more Democratic mayors of large metropolitan cities who have not implemented any vaccine mandates or passports on their citizens; Phoenix (Kate Gallego), Memphis (Jim Strictland), Charlotte (Vi Lyles), Tampa Bay (Jane Castor). It should noted that vaccination rates for these metro areas, including Dallas, Orlando & Atlanta are very low - and cases & hospitalizations are spiking. So, are do these mayors see the virus in a completely different light & are not interested in punishing the vaccine hesitant unlike their counterparts in the North?
"Republican mayors are generally OK by killing their citizens by pretending COVID doesn't exist?" Too funny kid - then so do the DEMOCRATIC mayors of Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Orlando, & Charlotte - just to name a few.
I know few people actually read these. But Prof. Morris has once against show the clear flaws in the Steve Kirsch, et al inanity.
Joedirt is just "Kirsch Lite." If you choose the right slices of data and ignore obvious confounders you can virtually flip the conclusions.
joed|rtttty wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
Ontario ICU:
57% vaccinated. The trends are telling.
You've always only sliced specific data that tells your story. Like small counties in Colorado. I am happy to way for loads of Omicron data.
Remember these data are pre-Simpson's correction. something you've fallen for like 100 times.
Colorado counties data:
Mesa County COVID tracker - Breakthrough infection rate up to 31.8 (had dropped to 14. before the holiday). Reinfection rate holding steady at 5.1 for the same period.
Tricounty Health Department - 50% of December cases among the vaccinated.
Mesa County - Covid Hospitalizations (as of 1/5/22)
Unvaccinated: 87.8%
Vaccinated: 12.2%
https://health.mesacounty.us/covid19/datadashboard/Jabber The Hut wrote:
No signs of the virus in my everyday life...
I'm glad to hear it, and hope it stays that way for you!
That's entirely sincere, by the way. I hope you never encounter the damage the virus can do. I lost good friends, a half-dozen fellow employees, and nearly my sister to Covid-19. I would be happy if no one else had to endure that level of loss.
In case anybody is still holding onto the "they would have died anyway!" canard, NOTE that U.S. deaths from all causes have been higher than expected *every* week since the middle of March, 2020.
Yes, we're *all* going to die anyway. But Covid-19 has shortened many lives significantly. In the linked chart, there were a couple weeks in the spring of 2021 when all-cause American deaths were close to (yet still above) what ordinarily would have been expected in those weeks. That was when a lot of people were getting vaccinated, and before Delta and Omicron showed up. Since then the gap has widened, to nearly 20,000 all-cause excess deaths in some weeks.
New variants, weakened (unboosted) vaccine strength, and not having been vaxed at all have been the main factors in the continuing toll.
Do Not Comply With Covid Restrictions wrote:
This "pandemic" has been the most overblown reaction in history.
Tens of millions of Americans agree with you. Tens of millions disagree.
And the best part of a million Americans can't agree *or* disagree now, because Covid-19 killed them.
Ivyguy wrote:
Do Not Comply With Covid Restrictions wrote:
This "pandemic" has been the most overblown reaction in history.
Tens of millions of Americans agree with you. Tens of millions disagree.
And the best part of a million Americans can't agree *or* disagree now, because Covid-19 killed them.
Did Covid kill them or were they killed WITH covid?
Roscoe from the Rocking Chair wrote:
Ivyguy wrote:
Tens of millions of Americans agree with you. Tens of millions disagree.
And the best part of a million Americans can't agree *or* disagree now, because Covid-19 killed them.
Did Covid kill them or were they killed WITH covid?
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Do Not Comply With Covid Restrictions wrote:
If they work so well, how come they need multiple tries to stick? What # booster are we on now?
What # booster will you be on in 10 years?
From a utility point of view, these vaccines are not very practical. They aren't built to last. Unlike say, a bridge. A civil engineering feat that stands for 50-100 years plus.
Comparing a vaccine to a bridge. Thanks for the laugh today.
kibitzer wrote:
Jabber The Hut wrote:
No signs of the virus in my everyday life...
I'm glad to hear it, and hope it stays that way for you!
That's entirely sincere, by the way. I hope you never encounter the damage the virus can do. I lost good friends, a half-dozen fellow employees, and nearly my sister to Covid-19. I would be happy if no one else had to endure that level of loss.
Do you live in a state that does not treat people who test positive for Covid but tells them to go home and isolate as per CDC guidelines? FLA saves lots of lives by immediate treatment with monoclonal antibodies
The Lily Hammer wrote:
Mesa County - Covid Hospitalizations (as of 1/5/22)
Unvaccinated: 87.8%
Vaccinated: 12.2%
https://health.mesacounty.us/covid19/datadashboard/
Well over 90% vaccine efficacy once accounting for rates of vaccination and Simpson's effects.
Liberal Politicians are Tyrants wrote:
And to my complete surprise there are even more Democratic mayors of large metropolitan cities who have not implemented any vaccine mandates or passports on their citizens; Phoenix (Kate Gallego), Memphis (Jim Strictland), Charlotte (Vi Lyles), Tampa Bay (Jane Castor). It should noted that vaccination rates for these metro areas, including Dallas, Orlando & Atlanta are very low - and cases & hospitalizations are spiking. So, are do these mayors see the virus in a completely different light & are not interested in punishing the vaccine hesitant unlike their counterparts in the North?
"Republican mayors are generally OK by killing their citizens by pretending COVID doesn't exist?" Too funny kid - then so do the DEMOCRATIC mayors of Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Orlando, & Charlotte - just to name a few.
There are plenty of Democratic mayors OK with killing their citizens as well. The only difference is that it's ALL the Republican mayors and only SOME of the Dems. Make sense?
Vaccination greatly reduces risk of "long COVID"
Conclusions: Vaccination with at least two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a substantial decrease in reporting the most common post-acute COVID19 symptoms. Our results suggest that, in addition to reducing the risk of acute illness, COVID-19 vaccination may have a protective effect against long COVID
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.05.22268800v1