Down goes the Dow

Ok but for any recent financial crises, there was an ignition out of control of the gov etc.

What would be it this time? If the rates go too high, the Fed just lowers them a bit. Even a slight re-adjustment down would cause markets to shoot up 10%+.

Remember that the current energy crises are caused by Russia’s invasion. It wasn’t Fed rates or liquidity that caused this.

Isn’t that always true?

How can you say that with a straight face? I see a government out of control the last decade. How else do you go from a Fed balance sheet of $900 Billion in 2007 to $9 Trillion today? Really crazy stuff this country has done, and that is not a slam to Democrats. The Republicans passed a tax cut that encouraged corporations to just buyback stock. The sheer volume of handouts is far more inflationary than energy.

I don't believe I would characterize app. 3:30pm to 4pm E.T. sell off as window dressing. The mutual funds have stated missions in prospectus. They can't hold 10% of equity mutual funds in cash. The opposite should occur due to window dressing. If Chief Strategist of fund company is bearish, he may instruct mutual fund managers to keep (10 to 15)% in cash until end of quarter so the last minute selling would not be window dressing after 3:30pm Friday.

Since by (2 or 3)pm E.T. Friday, fund managers likely completed their window dressing buying, equity funds sitting in about 2% cash. Mutual fund transactions occur after close of business.

Chief Strategists and fund managers can only decide so much. Mutual fund customers get a say in aggregate, net cash flow. If mutual fund has 2% cash on hand per prospectus, what occurs if mutual funds need more cash? They all have line of credit at commercial bank(s). Fund manager can go to line of credit &/or fund manager can sell additional security shares to meet liquidation demands by clients.

You may know: Except for high level corporate officers, most people with net worth greater than 25 million dollars are in about (80 to 85)% combination of real estate and bonds and about (15 to 20)% equities. Most rich people do not need to overly worry about equity markets. What are the $(125,000 to 500,000) earners doing? When $(125,000 to 500,000) crowd whom are of working age, when they fully max their 401K plus Traditional I.R.A. (no income restriction) and maybe whole life &/or variable annuity also, equities will boom. Working people, $(125,000 to 500,000) annual income are not participating at that level now.

I don't post on this thread often but I do recall posting on this thread or another thread late December, 2021 or early January, 2022 stating that S&P 500 P/E was too high. My prediction for the week ahead: S&P 1500/S&P 600/S&P 400/S&P 500 all finish down for the week.

Why are your analysis of the selling to the last half hour? The selling started at 11:15 AM ET.

And mutual funds can be really large, and even a few percent, or fractions of a percent, in cash would entail substantial market pressure, esp. if many were maneuvering at the same time.

Ad you say mutual fund transactions occur after market close. If a mutual fund wants to sell some of its equity holdings, I would assume that happens during the trading day.

I wouldn't be surprised if the SNP closes lower for the week, but even so, it might be viewed as some consolation if it were a minor move down, as in a slowing of the strong sell-off.

Great idea

Mutual fund orders are executed once per day, after the market close at 4pm.

I thought I was clear. Client orders trade once after hours. I clearly discussed net outflow of cash in my post. Obviously net inflow of client cash may have the opposite affect.

Mutual fund managers executing trading strategy by Chief Strategist has nothing to do with inflow or outflow of client cash.

You mean the energy crisis in Europe caused by the US sanctions in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine plus the saboatage of the Nordstream pipeline by USA of one of its vassal states

We are supposed to blame Putin for inflation. The energy crisis. The market collapse. The election of Trump. The Ukraine war. All Putin's fault and nobody else. Except some Trump's fault too.

I’m assuming that this is yet another of your RWNJ conspiracy theories that has no merit. Prove me wrong.

And funny how the Biden Crime Family Business was deep in Ukraine well before the invasion. And the CIA, and the State Department.

Oil stocks are about to go up again. Greed will send the price of Petro over $4 a gallon again and very soon.

For energy generally, I would think winter will drive prices much higher. Foolish draining of the SPR for political gains will cause a larger spike.

Trump reduced it (it has never been “drained”) for political gain. Biden reduced it to lower worldwide oil prices.

My oil stocks are way up and my bitcoin stock is up with the market.

But my bets against the market are obviously getting killed......but to add insult to injury Tesla is down over 8% and twitter down too.

But I am pretty confident we will see this market return to its losing ways.

Maybe even before end of close today.

Sure about that. :-)

Yes, I am quite sure. The SPR cannot legally go below a specified volume (350,000,000 bbl ?).