Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Agips a bich wrote:

They've stopped posting on the thread!!!!! Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

No Agip (or whatever he calls himself now), no Flagpole (just Flagpoled again, by the way), no LL, no Trollminator, no Fat Hurts, etc.

WOW- I was right all along, they really were just sitting there with their fingers crossed! Hahaha!!

While a strong man who wears makeup got you guys all emotional, here's a good article on a bunch of forgotten men struggling while elites thrive, which is the hallmark of trump's tax plan. Thanks, forgotten men! Keep up the emotional work. You'll win, trust me. Many people are saying it!

"Despite so many false statements and lies, total and complete vindication...and WOW, Comey is a leaker!" Trump tweeted Friday morning.

So Comey perjured himself?

Probably not.

We need to get Trump on the stand, under oath, and allow him to purger himself.

There is an investigation currently going on about the president.

This hearing was part of it.

Robert Mueller is leading the investigation.

Not a lot of sensational testimony happened in the open session.

So what happened in the closed session that we weren't allowed to hear?

Here is what I came away with after seeing all the Comey stuff yesterday:

1) Trump doesn't follow standard protocols (that in and of itself isn't necessarily bad or good).

2) If the conversations went as Comey described them (and I believe they likely either did or were very close to how he described them), it is perhaps a little bit alarming (even a lot alarming), but I don't see how impeachment proceedings could begin just based on what Comey has said.

3) If I were to put on a partisan hat, I could easily say that what Trump did was obstruction of justice, but I do always look at things fairly, and as close to the line as Trump has been here (I mean, he said he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation and then told the Russians that that lifted some pressure from him, and it DOES appear he was pressuring Comey to drop the investigation of Flynn), he never gave Comey an ultimatum, so I find it hard to believe that just based on what we saw yesterday that anyone is now eager to begin impeachment proceedings who wasn't already clamoring for them before.

I believe Trump is far and away the worst president we have ever had and that he is not a good person and not a smart person, but impeachment is very serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. So far, with what we know, I don't see a case for impeachment. That could change of course.

Flagpole wrote:

Here is what I came away with after seeing all the Comey stuff yesterday:

You didn't see all of the Comey stuff yesterday.

You saw the open session.

There was also a closed session where they could discuss more sensitive and even classified matters.

What more did the Senators find out that the public couldn't here?

L L wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Here is what I came away with after seeing all the Comey stuff yesterday:

You didn't see all of the Comey stuff yesterday.

You saw the open session.

There was also a closed session where they could discuss more sensitive and even classified matters.

What more did the Senators find out that the public couldn't here?

Of course. After seeing what I was allowed to see, I don't see a path to impeachment. Still stuff I didn't see. Still an investigation on going, but from what we all know publicly for now, I see no logical path to impeachment.

I would love for Trump to be ousted...either by impeachment or in the next election (which isn't guaranteed), but I always look at things as they are, and based on what we saw from Comey yesterday, I don't see an impeachment.

All Lefties and Moderates should pray Trump is not impeached. He is in a word incompetent and can only harm himself and the GOP the longer he stays in office. I for one hope this focus on the Russian issues and the election die down so we can get back to more closely observing how totally unprepared and unqualified 'The Don' is. He has majorities in both Houses and his big nominees were confirmed but he has proven to be completely ineffective domestically while having entirely negative impact internationally.

BobbyAxelrod wrote:

All Lefties and Moderates should pray Trump is not impeached. He is in a word incompetent and can only harm himself and the GOP the longer he stays in office.

I for one hope this focus on the Russian issues and the election die down so we can get back to more closely observing how totally unprepared and unqualified 'The Don' is. He has majorities in both Houses and his big nominees were confirmed but he has proven to be completely ineffective domestically while having entirely negative impact internationally.

I agree with you about Trump, and I don't mind if the GOP gets damaged by him, but he is so bad, such an amateur, that I would rather see him out as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening right now.

you are being just as bad as the trumpers - wanting a political victory at the cost of the nation. They want trump even if he hurts the nation, and you want the same thing. The nation (and the world) needs a good president. Hoping he stays b/c he will hurt the GOP and himself is not helpful - you are hoping the nation and world will suffer also.

This ^ (agip's quote) x 1000

Regarding the bolded statement - NO!!! He can not "only harm himself and the GOP". He can harm the entire nation and the world. That is the point. Not your "my team vs the other team" BS.

L L wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Here is what I came away with after seeing all the Comey stuff yesterday:

You didn't see all of the Comey stuff yesterday.

You saw the open session.

There was also a closed session where they could discuss more sensitive and even classified matters.

What more did the Senators find out that the public couldn't here?

Jeff Sessions being the most interesting story from yesterday.

My favorite part is today, with Trump doing a classic trumpian shooting of himself in the foot.

He's filing a complaint against Comey for his testimony and sharing his memo.

Of course Comey is perfectly within his legal bounds to share his conversations with the president. There was nothing classified. Comey was no longer an employee. It's like saying no one can ever write a memoir after leaving gov't service.

So now if Trump does file some sort of complaint against comey, it's just one more piece of evidence that Trump's plan is to obstruct justice every day all the day.

He is so freaking dumb. I can't even believe it sometimes.

eric a blair wrote:

My favorite part is today, with Trump doing a classic trumpian shooting of himself in the foot.

He's filing a complaint against Comey for his testimony and sharing his memo.

Of course Comey is perfectly within his legal bounds to share his conversations with the president. There was nothing classified. Comey was no longer an employee. It's like saying no one can ever write a memoir after leaving gov't service.

So now if Trump does file some sort of complaint against comey, it's just one more piece of evidence that Trump's plan is to obstruct justice every day all the day.

He is so freaking dumb. I can't even believe it sometimes.

How far you have fallen! Comeymierda, the ex director of the Federal Bureau of Matters, did not share his memo. He orchestrated a leak to the NYT to get a special prosecutor installed. At worst he broke the law, at best he is highly unethical.

I told you this would happen.

Did you tell me Trump would leak top secret information to the Russians?

Who's the leaker now?

there's nothing unethical about sharing your own memo, about unclassified material, after you leave gov't service.

If there were something wrong with that, ever memoir ever written by a former gov't worker would be unethical.

surely you don't believe that.

Independent wrote:

Democrats want to play semantic games with what "I hope" means. Comey interprets this as an obvious directive even as he admits he doesn't know Trump well enough to read him....

Trump had recently threatened Comey's job. When your boss says, "I hope you will do this", we all know what that means.

exthrower wrote:

Geez....Comey comes off as a spineless weasel.....Doesn't even have the balls to leak his own stuff...Gives it to his left wing professor friend to give to the media...The guy should be ashamed of himself....Lets hope he gets prosecuted....

He shared unclassified information. There is nothing to prosecute.

It appears that part of the reason he worked with a law professor to get the memos out was to make sure it was done is such a way there would be no legal jeopardy. Unlike Trump, Comey is careful to follow the law.

Fat hurts wrote:

Independent wrote:

Democrats want to play semantic games with what "I hope" means. Comey interprets this as an obvious directive even as he admits he doesn't know Trump well enough to read him....

Trump had recently threatened Comey's job. When your boss says, "I hope you will do this", we all know what that means.

I am with you there that Trump was definitely twisting Comey's arm there, and I DO think it was unethical and inappropriate and likely even to the point of obstruction of justice. The problem is that with such a gray area of saying "hope", unfortunately I think Trump skates by on that. Based only on Comey's public testimony, I can't believe impeachment proceedings will happen. Perhaps his closed-door testimony has more damning evidence.

Fat hurts wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Geez....Comey comes off as a spineless weasel.....Doesn't even have the balls to leak his own stuff...Gives it to his left wing professor friend to give to the media...The guy should be ashamed of himself....Lets hope he gets prosecuted....

He shared unclassified information. There is nothing to prosecute.

It appears that part of the reason he worked with a law professor to get the memos out was to make sure it was done is such a way there would be no legal jeopardy. Unlike Trump, Comey is careful to follow the law.

There should be an investigation. If he leaked the memos, he probably leaked other stuff.

itsbaddude wrote:

How far you have fallen! Comeymierda, the ex director of the Federal Bureau of Matters, did not share his memo. He orchestrated a leak to the NYT to get a special prosecutor installed. At worst he broke the law, at best he is highly unethical.

I told you this would happen.

It's obviously not illegal. Why do you think it is unethical?