DISGRACED Iowa State Runner Transfers to D3 School

The main point of this post is not to point out how well others progressed. Those MIT, JH, or UWW runners never had a meteoric rise all of a sudden or were in any kind of trouble with universities. You take a runner who was a run of the mill D3 guy who progressed 60-90s in the 5k over 3 years, fine. You take a just okay D1 guy and suddenly he beats D1 studs, is running insanely good while having all-time marks in the span of a month back to back days with insane recovery after being kicked out of a previous university with witness/accounts of potential doping...that's where the difference lies! Am I crazy for thinking this or are people losing sight of this thread?

People want to use this thread to interfere with public opinion and throw them off the scent

Unfortunately for Seth, his sh!t stinks so bad the Rowan AD had to make a statement

Those guys were all slower thsn Seth in HS. And almost all of them made a huge jump in one year. Why not at least be honest?

There is no question that his race results seem suspicious...

but he was not kicked out of a previously university. He was suspended.

Who are these supposed witnesses of his doping, or even possessing EPO? Nobody, as far as I have seen, has come forward with any such witness accounts. Even the video is from an anonymous post without any explanation of how it was obtained.

Because none of them were removed from their team, none were implicated with doping, and none have possible emails floating around of purchased banned substances.

One time, I walked into my garage and I noticed an object. It was rake-like, consisting of materials that a rake would be made of, formed and molded into the shape of a rake, was placed in a location where a rake would likely be, and had several leaves still attached to the metal protrusions.

Upon examining what I saw, I concluded that it was a rake.

You live in a little world of rumors. He wasn't kicked off of his team. He wasn't implicated with doping. And you are relying on some faked documents. The facts are that he transferred in good standing because he raced and set the national record last weekend. Too bad that he so much better than you, not just at running.

Good for you. You are much better at identifying rakes than you are drug cheats.

Don't let any of these trolls distract you from the fact that there is irrefutable video evidence that someone used Seth's personal gmail account to order EPO from the dark web and have it shipped to Seth's grandfather's house. Who could have done such a thing? I guess we'll never know, but it would be libelous and irresponsible to suggest that Seth himself placed that order, so I am certainly not suggesting that, on December 5th 2025, Seth used his personal email address to illegally purchase drugs and ship them to his grandfather's house.

LOL, god damn. Amazing. One of the absolute best parts of this thread is that you D3 nerdos are absolute maestros at dunking Seth's family into oblivion.

Coach Joe, humor me, you believe those emails or pictures to be fake. Why do you believe that, is there any damning evidence to support you to believe that? Or are you just basing it on how you feel? The rest of us use evidence to support our opinion.

Don't feed the troll. A few days ago coach joe didn't know it was illegal to order drugs off the internet without a prescription, but now we are supposed to believe he an expert in the capabilities of generative AI

You do not need AI to create a webpage that looks like a Gmail inbox that contains one "email" hyperlinked to a fake receipt.

The video is real, the documents they are videoing are fake. Make sense?

Imagine a 20 year old teammate somehow accessing his email and making a video. The guy would know that he would be one of only 2 or 3 people who could have done it. He could go to jail for his involvement. I rely on facts. You are relying on feelings. An anonymous person on letsrun made a video of a fake email. He went to his local library to send it.

Coach Joe I ran 13:53 thank you very much

Hey dingus, I was just reading this thread with my popcorn and saw this.

i found out from athletes from NJ with (alleged) ties to Seth like 24 hours before the whole ISU scandal went down during XC. Group chat did not sleep that night

You found out what?

docs.google.com

Athlete petition for full, public investigation of Seth Clevenger

Please see the attached document that will be sent. If you support this initiative, submit this form and your name will be added to it. D3 Clevenger Investigation Petition Link to EPO purchasing evidence (videos)

Open link

Athlete petition for full, public investigation on Seth Clevenger.

Again, that’s a whole lot of effort to call into question an athlete that was removed from his previous schools XC program.

I quite frankly do not care about the legality of how an individual would have accessed his email. Whether by key logger, Trojan, brute forcing, etc doesn’t matter to me. I don’t think we should discourage anyone from being a whistleblower. Questioning the legality of how it was accessed means admission of the email account and emails legitimacy. I think Seth supporters know that, which is why we are now seeing the pus to question the validity of the existence of the email.

pretty easy test if someone wants to email that account and see if you get a bounce back. You could also try to login to it and see what Gmail spits back.