You bet. I’ve long blocked that wannabe American. He’s foul and not very smart, a combination that isn’t worth any attention.
You've just described the average poster. You should feel at home.
You may be right but what is without doubt is that you are sub average and beyond the pale and we can’t wait for your potty mouthed self to be banned again.
You've just described the average poster. You should feel at home.
You may be right but what is without doubt is that you are sub average and beyond the pale and we can’t wait for your potty mouthed self to be banned again.
Stop calling Lorelei Barrett and Athena Ryan boys... psychologically, they are girls. Give them both the she/her pronouns.
HOWEVER. THAT SAID. The science backs the fact that trans boys and cis girls are physically disadvantaged compared to cis boys and trans girls from puberty on. Anyone that read Lauren Fleshman's book, for instance, will know about the part where she used to always beat everyone, boys and girls alike, and then puberty happened and overnight with no extra effort, there was a cis boy suddenly obliterating her race times.
I wholeheartedly support the addition of the nonbinary category but haven't failed to notice it's usually people with Y chromosomes winning those. The best option? Add 2 more categories, one for trans boys and one for trans girls, in all events for ages 11 and up so that trans boys and cis girls aren't being steamrolled by their counterparts with Y chromosomes.
You may be right but what is without doubt is that you are sub average and beyond the pale and we can’t wait for your potty mouthed self to be banned again.
Like you were? You haven't been here for months.
No denying that you are a sub average potty mouthed super troll.
Funny enough there was a post on this message board last year during T&F season discussing Athena Ryan competing in the female category and one day it magically disappeared…never to be seen again. The simple fact that we are now able to discuss it here and it’s not being removed is progress in itself! When CIF rules like this exist and people are not allowed to freely speak to the injustice they see & experience, they will look for other ways to be heard. If biological males continue to compete in the women’s category in CA (and elsewhere!) and CIF continues look the other way and silence women’s voices, I can assure you that these peaceful protests will continue. You’re going to see it in volleyball, in basketball and if these biological males run CIF XC next year you will see it there. People are paying attention now and women are done playing nice.
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No denying that you are a sub average potty mouthed super troll.
I don't have to deny drivel. But I do see that you have made me your fetish. You talk of nothing or no one else. You follow me everywhere. Quite an obsession.
Are you going to show the studies you think prove this? Because I know at least one study that anti-trans types like yourself love to use to claim it, but that shows nothing of the sort.
As to you calling me an "anti-trans type" - I'm a pluralist who believes people of all kinds, walks of life, identities etc should be treated fairly and decently. I want everyone - even those very different to me and whose views I strongly disagree with - to be able to exercise their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in safety and security without unjust discrimination, bullying, cruelty or any kind of mistreatment.
But my focus in convos about "trans" and the gender identity movement in general is finding ways for society to be fair to, and accepting of, all whilst not compromising or rolling back the hard-won rights of women and girls (the female kind) that generations of women had to fight tooth and nail for; keeping in place and strengthening protective measures that provide safeguarding for children, girls and women, and other vulnerable people; advancing LGB rights and acceptance; not compromisng anyone's free speech rights; and not being bullied or browbeaten into going along with the unscientific, reality-denying, sexist and misogynistic dogma the gender identity movement is built on and peddles.
BTW, I probably personally know or have known more people who identify as trans, or did in the past, than anyone else on this thread. Which is why I know there is no unanimity amongst them on this and other issues, just as there is diversity of thought amongst "the LGB," Democratic Party voters, Labour (UK) members, lefties, liberals and so on.
RunRagged, of course you're anti-trans! It's comical that you pretend not to be, when you post constantly on an almost daily basis about how evil transwomen are. I also know many trans people and while there is diversity of opinion among trans people regarding the inclusion of transwomen in elite sports, I know of zero transpeople who support intentionally mis-pronouning trans people, portraying them as sexual predators/violent criminals, and constantly vilifying them in post after post.
You claim to be defending women while expressing condescension towards women who support trans rights (specifically trans women). In your mind, you seem to genuinely believe that men are overwhelmingly supportive of trans women and are seeking to promote trans women athletes in some bizarre conspiracy to subjugate cisgender women, despite the fact that studies show that women are more supportive of the trans community than men, and that transwomen are subjected to violence and rape by men.
You get extremely defensive whenever a male poster says anything remotely supportive of transwomen, and accuse them of talking down to you. Meanwhile, you constantly talk down to trans people, while claiming to be supportive of them.
There are feminists such as Martina Navratilova, who oppose transwomen's inclusion at the elite level of sport, while managing to also use transgender people's preferred pronouns, and to not demonize them as sexual predators, and violent criminals whose only motivation in transitioning is to dominate women.
If transwomen are excluded from women's restrooms and changing rooms, then where are they supposed to go to the bathroom or change their clothes? You do realize that many transwomen pass and are stealth? You are demanding that transwomen who just want to live their lives as women must constantly out themselves by forcing them to use the men's facilities. Do you also want to ban them from a women's book club? Or a recreational women's softball league?
I think they didn't realize how much opposition there was against their presence.
For whatever reason they felt it was perfectly fine what they were doing, that their advantages weren't unfair. It was totally above board, and anyone who felt differently was a bigot.
They were confronted with the full force of opposition, who is now much louder and doesn't care about being called a TERF or a transphobe or whatever. it's a shame that it happened to kids, but TRAs have done a poor job protecting them and educating them or even understanding why the opposition feels the way that it does. All they do is scream TERF! TERF!
Just doesn't work anymore. And it's only going to get louder.
Some people who demand that males who claim special gender identities be included in girls' and women's sports seem to believe that such males don't have unfair advantages like you say.
This view seems to be all too common today amongst kids and young adults, particularly if they've grown up heavily immersed in fantasy and fiction without engaging in much strenuous physical activity themselves, especially not in mixed-sex groups, and they've also not watched or paid much attention to adolescent and adult sports.
These young people seem unaware that there's a big difference between flesh and blood reality and the imaginary scenarios they see in video games, in superhero and action movies and sci-fi shows, in anime and other cartoons, and on Tumblr, reddit, TikTok and YouTube. They also seem unable to distinguish between the basic biological facts of life and the pie-in-the-sky claims made by all the propagandists pushing gender identity ideology onto impressionable youngsters. Many seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for the idea that actual alchemy occurs through the supposed magic of "transition."
But many others - including many full-grown adults who've done sports - know full well that trans-identified males do have unfair advantages over females, but they say it's right for athletes like Athena Ryan to compete in the female category anyways.
This view was recently voiced very loudly on the supposedly "democratic socialist and progressive" Majority Report podcast and radio show by co-host Emma Vigeland, who is also host of a weekly sports show.
I think they didn't realize how much opposition there was against their presence.
For whatever reason they felt it was perfectly fine what they were doing, that their advantages weren't unfair. It was totally above board, and anyone who felt differently was a bigot.
They were confronted with the full force of opposition, who is now much louder and doesn't care about being called a TERF or a transphobe or whatever. it's a shame that it happened to kids, but TRAs have done a poor job protecting them and educating them or even understanding why the opposition feels the way that it does. All they do is scream TERF! TERF!
Just doesn't work anymore. And it's only going to get louder.
Some people who demand that males who claim special gender identities be included in girls' and women's sports seem to believe that such males don't have unfair advantages like you say.
This view seems to be all too common today amongst kids and young adults, particularly if they've grown up heavily immersed in fantasy and fiction without engaging in much strenuous physical activity themselves, especially not in mixed-sex groups, and they've also not watched or paid much attention to adolescent and adult sports.
These young people seem unaware that there's a big difference between flesh and blood reality and the imaginary scenarios they see in video games, in superhero and action movies and sci-fi shows, in anime and other cartoons, and on Tumblr, reddit, TikTok and YouTube. They also seem unable to distinguish between the basic biological facts of life and the pie-in-the-sky claims made by all the propagandists pushing gender identity ideology onto impressionable youngsters. Many seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for the idea that actual alchemy occurs through the supposed magic of "transition."
But many others - including many full-grown adults who've done sports - know full well that trans-identified males do have unfair advantages over females, but they say it's right for athletes like Athena Ryan to compete in the female category anyways.
This view was recently voiced very loudly on the supposedly "democratic socialist and progressive" Majority Report podcast and radio show by co-host Emma Vigeland, who is also host of a weekly sports show.
Does “some” people in your 1st paragraph mean more than ten? If people really believe that, why is hormone treatment required at all levels, besides HS, for major women’s sports? Your 3rd paragraph is absolute nonsense and is not supported by the reactions to Lia Thomas or the 1600m runners in California.
No denying that you are a sub average potty mouthed super troll.
I don't have to deny drivel. But I do see that you have made me your fetish. You talk of nothing or no one else. You follow me everywhere. Quite an obsession.
Yet again you have no idea what else I post on; have you? You make things up all the time and attempt to present such as facts.
As to you calling me an "anti-trans type" - I'm a pluralist who believes people of all kinds, walks of life, identities etc should be treated fairly and decently. I want everyone - even those very different to me and whose views I strongly disagree with - to be able to exercise their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in safety and security without unjust discrimination, bullying, cruelty or any kind of mistreatment.
But my focus in convos about "trans" and the gender identity movement in general is finding ways for society to be fair to, and accepting of, all whilst not compromising or rolling back the hard-won rights of women and girls (the female kind) that generations of women had to fight tooth and nail for; keeping in place and strengthening protective measures that provide safeguarding for children, girls and women, and other vulnerable people; advancing LGB rights and acceptance; not compromisng anyone's free speech rights; and not being bullied or browbeaten into going along with the unscientific, reality-denying, sexist and misogynistic dogma the gender identity movement is built on and peddles.
BTW, I probably personally know or have known more people who identify as trans, or did in the past, than anyone else on this thread. Which is why I know there is no unanimity amongst them on this and other issues, just as there is diversity of thought amongst "the LGB," Democratic Party voters, Labour (UK) members, lefties, liberals and so on.
RunRagged, of course you're anti-trans! It's comical that you pretend not to be, when you post constantly on an almost daily basis about how evil transwomen are. I also know many trans people and while there is diversity of opinion among trans people regarding the inclusion of transwomen in elite sports, I know of zero transpeople who support intentionally mis-pronouning trans people, portraying them as sexual predators/violent criminals, and constantly vilifying them in post after post.
You claim to be defending women while expressing condescension towards women who support trans rights (specifically trans women). In your mind, you seem to genuinely believe that men are overwhelmingly supportive of trans women and are seeking to promote trans women athletes in some bizarre conspiracy to subjugate cisgender women, despite the fact that studies show that women are more supportive of the trans community than men, and that transwomen are subjected to violence and rape by men.
You get extremely defensive whenever a male poster says anything remotely supportive of transwomen, and accuse them of talking down to you. Meanwhile, you constantly talk down to trans people, while claiming to be supportive of them.
There are feminists such as Martina Navratilova, who oppose transwomen's inclusion at the elite level of sport, while managing to also use transgender people's preferred pronouns, and to not demonize them as sexual predators, and violent criminals whose only motivation in transitioning is to dominate women.
If transwomen are excluded from women's restrooms and changing rooms, then where are they supposed to go to the bathroom or change their clothes? You do realize that many transwomen pass and are stealth? You are demanding that transwomen who just want to live their lives as women must constantly out themselves by forcing them to use the men's facilities. Do you also want to ban them from a women's book club? Or a recreational women's softball league?
Good post. The last post in which I called out the other poster on its posts’ consistent pattern of transphobia, verbosity, and illogic got conveniently moderated out, presumably because the mods are transphobes themselves and/or this site has too many report-post crybabies.
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