Coach-athlete sex, rape and PEDs at Huntington University? Nick Johnson scandal gets grimmer thanks to David Woods expose

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I have been and will continue to beat this same drum with you. Collectively, we can sit here and speculate on any other particulars, but this is the "only" thing that matters in point of fact regarding the Huntington University XC program. It's a big only, and incredibly disgusting all on its own.

And just because it's been lost a little in the recent news, this fact, publicly available to all who wish to see it, was either ignored or not looked into by the HU athletic department and administration. Their jobs are just as forfeit as Lauren's and Nick's are, perhaps the one good point Lauren almost made in this recent interview.

Looked like an unhealthy mix of self delusion and doubling down for legal purposes. Three women Nick has slept with claiming that two other women Nick has slept with are lying about the details of the sleeping. How would they even know? Doubt they would be there when it happened.

Hoping the lawyers representing Hannah and Emma know what they’re doing. And I guess maybe the bureau too? Are we just trusting a random letsrun poster that the FBI is investigating or is that written down somewhere official? Maybe we can send Rojo to Indiana to check up on this.

JEH,

I’m just curious where the highlighted information is sourced from. I’ve been pretty plugged into this case in the past, but I must have missed this and now cannot find this information regarding Addy and Aspens friendship, nor the explicit details of the affair and ended engagement. Since you aren’t connected at all to these people and are just viewing from afar, I’m assuming there’s some article I can’t find that outlines all of this that you could point me to. I’d appreciate it.

thanks,

hunter wheres the blow

Just to clarify, I believe JEH is explaining that Aspen Dirr was (possibly) a friend and definitely a teammate to Hannah Stoffel (they were the main drivers of the Indoor T&F National title in 2020). Aspen was never a teammate with Emma Wilson to my knowledge, having graduated or stopped competing before Wilson's arrival to HU. He is saying that Addy and Aspen were definitely not friends (I don't know about currently), and that information may be implied in the police report if we assume that Addy is the victim, as the victim is quoted in the report as "hating" Aspen if memory serves me.

I don’t want to go back and read it right now, but if I remember correctly, some of that info was in the police report. Correct me if I’m wrong though!

Y'all are correct. It says somewhere in that 58 page police report that Victim 1 "hated" Aspen Dirr and felt intimidated by her because she was successful.

As for the breaking off the engagement part that JEH pointed out, I have not seen that anywhere. I can believe its true though. If I find out my coach is bumping uglies with my fiance I'm doing a lot more than breaking off the engagement...

Looking at TFRRS, Aspen and Emma were teammates for the entire 2020-2021 school year having both competed at the 2021 outdoor national championships together.

I am in nearly complete agreement with the previous posts from Bob5034, Supertramp, rgp65, Evensplit, Vand, and Hunter Where’s the Blow. SORRY - I know that must suck! Lol

I have not seen anything definitive about how much Huntington’s AD and Administration knew and when they knew it. Of course, it was short-sighted to hire LJ after dismissing NJ, but even at that time, I am unsure about the extent of the unsavory behavior they were aware of. In the police report, LJ followed up with the police to let them know that she informed HU about NJ’s affairs. But, it is not clear who exactly she informed, or what she said exactly to “inform” them. Also, given the situation, how much stock can we put into any statement from LJ? So, as it pertains to the AD and the administration, I think the investigation that the board hired out to perform should have a significant role in assessing how much fault / responsibility is on the school. Of course, I understand the hesitation towards trusting this investigation, but I don’t know if I see a better alternative (other than a complete outside source hiring the investigation team). I am very suspicious of LJ, so I did not find that part (or any part) of the interview very compelling nor forthcoming.

Does anyone know/are we able to find out what is happening with the investigation? It just seems like there was a lot of coverage when the civil lawsuit broke and we have heard next to nothing until this TV interview. Is there anyway to find out where the investigation is? I am not very in-tune with the legal world.

I doubt anything is public. I am sure the lawyers are working through the lawsuit and FBI is doing their work.

HWTB, you're funny! (being serious) “Three women Nick has slept with claiming that two other women Nick has slept with are lying about the details of the sleeping. How would they even know? Doubt they would be there when it happened.” My only objection is that I think it is 3 women vs 1, though, and the 5th “just” endured longer awkward hugs along with the injections. You raise a central point, though.. who knows for sure about any of this. Is one accusation of rape against a person (who absolutely undeniably has jacked up issues) enough? To be sure, It’s a clusterf.

Thank you for asking about my statements (that you bolded). When Shakespeare wrote, “Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows,” I doubt he thought he would be taken quite so literally in Huntington. Going by the police report, Dirr was in the middle of everything. Needless to say, if others came forward, that would make a big difference on how things would go, but I felt it was very odd that Woods did not mention Dirr at all. Of course, it could have been that she was traumatized, etc. and didn’t want to come out (which would be totally understandable). But, now that she has, and it is clear that she has a different take / experience (and I believe it’s likely she told Woods as much, or he knew better than to ask at the direction of the plaintiffs), then I find Wood’s investigation and expose to be on about the same level as the latest news report investigation and interviews. Another unfortunate aspect to all this, imo.

You would be correct in saying that I really don’t know (especially given the latest turn of events) who’s friends with who. I imagine it’s evolving. As others have already mentioned above, some of what I asserted was in the police report. Victim1 (I think we can be pretty confident who victim1 is) at the time of the police interviews did not feel great about Dirr. Said she “hated” her one time, and then on another occasion said that she really disliked Dirr, and that Dirr was mean to her. Victim1 said that Stoffel was nicer to her, but in a pity-ing kind of way.

Dirr, Stoffel, and Wilson were all multi National Champions and All-Americans for the team. I believe it likely that they shared many of the same goals and training runs, but I have no video or documented proof of this. Dirr and Stoffel were both part of the 2020 National Meet winning DMR squad and between the 2 of them scored like 60-something of the team’s 80-ish points to win the team indoor championship (this can be found in a Huntington County Tab news article). Also, Dirr not only ran with Wilson, but they were also roommates for Dirr’s last semester, and there is a picture where they look like close friends (from a facebook article). So, I can’t say that they are bff’s, but I don’t believe it’s a stretch to say that they were friends. Going back to the police report, at some point Victim1 expressed concern about being on the team with Dirr and Stoffel, and NJ said to not worry and that they would “make room”. As for Dirr’s engagement, there is an easy-to-find engagement/registry site. They were engaged in 2019, all this went down, and then they did not get married. In short, I can not provide a single news article where Dirr responds to questions saying, “Yeah, me and Hannah-bo-bannah Stoffel-waffle are besties fo life!” and “Yeah, my fiance wasn’t the most stoked I've seen him when he found out that coach and I “bumped uglies” on the regular.” But, I think it is very reasonable to draw these conclusions. You may certainly hold a different opinion (of course), and that’s ok!

The Fox59 article that accompanied the interview had a statement from the prosecutions lawyers that new information could be coming soon. From the article:

Little, the attorney representing the women who filed the federal lawsuit, told us, “stay tuned because there might be new information coming soon.”

I’m staying tuned. Couldn’t be more tuned. Tuned af over here.

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I noticed that in the article. Maybe some proof to back up the accusations?! We can only hope. I would really like to see the disclosure statement that was forged for the "PED experiment sponsored by Nike."

This story is mind boggling in so many ways. The constant cover-up, the lies, the deceit. That interview with LJ, Dirr, and Wiley tells us nothing. Just a bunch of liars trying to protect themselves.

Interesting that LJ, Hines, and Wiley are all Huntington natives. Seriously, what the f is going in Huntington. Seems like a cult like environment.

Nick is a Huntington native too. And as I previously mentioned about a month ago, Nick and Lauren's high school, Don Cotton, pleaded guilty to sexual battery of a minor in 2013. There is a trend of this behavior in that town.

If there was a legitimate study surrounding the use of carnitine..... if..... there should be a significant paper trail of institutional IRB review at Huntington with someone as the site PI, there should be paperwork at the US Oly training center with a list of team members overseeing the study. There should be clinical oversight and validation of all injections given to athletes. Protocols, etc...

If it is legitimate, it shouldn't take much for the school to discredit plaintiff's claims in the suit.

We will have to wait and see. if it is real it should be very easy to provide validation of that.

Now if we want to speculate.... it seems odd that an Olympic training center would be sponsoring a study on athletes for enhanced recovery that could potentially exist in the PED grey zone. You would also have to get the study approved that the benefits of the increased recovery for sport outweigh the risks of infection from injection.

also everyone can go take a look at the US Oly training center website and see that they list current research interests. there is no section of current research on enhancing athlete recovery or L-carnitine.

They do have some records of speaking events discussing athlete recovery.

In the end. we will have to wait until the civil case presents any information on what really happened.

I'm curious as to what will happen next with "Victim #1".

Her whole reasoning for transferring to Huntington was that she performed so well under Lauren Johnson (and Nick, obviously) and that she wanted to stick with what worked for her.

Now she is being coached by an interim coach who comes from a jumps background...I imagine some of the NIL deals she could have pursued have dried up.

OR she is still being coached by the Johnsons which makes this whole situation worse.